MintBaconDrivel
9 years ago
Best method to use.

PHOENIX — Mike McCarthy isn't necessarily expecting his 2015 draft class to have the same impact last year's class had.

Not that the Green Bay Packers head coach wouldn't be delighted if the April 30-May 2 three-day NFL Draft yields four instant contributors like center Corey Linsley, safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, tight end Richard Rodgers and wide receiver Davante Adams were last season.

"We relied on young players a lot early in the season," McCarthy said Sunday afternoon during an informal session with reporters at the annual NFL Meetings at the Arizona Biltmore resort. "It paid off for us later in the season."

But as is the case every year, McCarthy is counting on the young guys already on the roster to deliver the most improvement-from-within help. That means greater contributions from the aforementioned foursome, and significant improvement from wide receiver Jeff Janis, who saw action in only three games; cornerback Demetri Goodson, who saw action in six games but only on special teams; wide receiver Jared Abbrederis, who missed the season with a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee; and defensive tackle Khyri Thornton, who was placed on injured reserve with a hamstring injury after an inauspicious training camp.

"I think when we look at the body of work of the rookies, [we] have to feel good about particularly the 4⃣ guys and what they accomplished in their first year," McCarthy said. "[But] you still have to keep growing from within. I think the biggest improvement a team needs to make from the personnel is the first-year players to the second year — or if a guy has an injury or something, that second to third year.

"That one-to-three years [window] to me, that's where the biggest improvement comes. You'll have the influx of young talent. I know that's exciting when you get a high draft pick, a guy you're excited about. [But] everyone goes through transition; it takes some time."

McCarthy said that Thornton, a third-round pick from Southern Mississippi who did not impress in camp before suffering the hamstring injury, and Abbrederis, a fifth-round pick from Wisconsin who caught quarterback Aaron Rodgers' eye before his knee injury, are making strides despite not getting to play last season.

"I think Thornton has really turned the corner in the weight and conditioning part of it," McCarthy said. "And Jared is [at Lambeau Field] every day. So, he just has to get stronger, a little bigger. Everybody felt great about the way he showed in spring and the training camp he was having. So, yeah, definitely. It won't be lack of work ethic, that's for sure."

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nerdmann
9 years ago
That's true, but self shitting is also our calling card. We need to change that.
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texaspackerbacker
9 years ago
Some of the biggest self-shitters are gone, and the young guys in the article stand a good chance of breaking that tradition. Speaking of traditions, Nerdman, did anybody ever tell you, your word usage kinda indicates some traumatic toilet-training in your background.
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nerdmann
9 years ago

Some of the biggest self-shitters are gone, and the young guys in the article stand a good chance of breaking that tradition. Speaking of traditions, Nerdman, did anybody ever tell you, your word usage kinda indicates some traumatic toilet-training in your background.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Niether Mike or Dom are gone.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
beast
9 years ago

"I think Thornton has really turned the corner in the weight and conditioning part of it," McCarthy said. "And Jared is [at Lambeau Field] every day. So, he just has to get stronger, a little bigger. Everybody felt great about the way he showed in spring and the training camp he was having. So, yeah, definitely. It won't be lack of work ethic, that's for sure."

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I really enjoyed reading this part, as Thornton really needs some positive movement after a training camp that made him disappear. I don't know if he was uncomfortable or overwhelmed with all the changes (new town, new coaches, new team, new playbook, new level of play) and just froze or what... but he looked like a completely different guy actively moving than what his college tape seemed to show of an aggressive, energetic down hill DL type.

And of course it's always nice to hear someone said at Lambeau Field everyday... if Abbrederis can stay healthy, he might be able to become the full size Welker with all that quickness he has shown.

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Zero2Cool
9 years ago

And of course it's always nice to hear someone said at Lambeau Field everyday... if Abbrederis can stay healthy, he might be able to become the full size Welker with all that quickness he has shown.

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beast
9 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



If you want to say they're both white just compare him to Jordy Nelson... they're both white with the same 40 straight line speed, about the same height and both hard working quiet white guys who work hard on routes at at Lambeau Field and on the same team.

The comparison is a lot more about their short area quickness... as Abbrederis and Welker would probably kill Nelson in short area quickness... as Nelson is a long strider that takes time to build up speed. Abbrederis also could only bench 225... 4 times... which is small and Welker is small (but still benched 12 times). And on top of this the recent rumor about the Packers might be interested in a cheap WR (followed by the rumor Welker, at this point might be a cheap WR and the connection there). If Abbrederis is fully healthy we might not need another slot WR type as we already have one (to go with Cobb).
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Its going to take that improvement from within to have a chance of maintaining the status quo of the team. To actually improve the team, they need to use that internal improvement combined with improvement from an external source.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Porforis
9 years ago

Its going to take that improvement from within to have a chance of maintaining the status quo of the team. To actually improve the team, they need to use that internal improvement combined with improvement from an external source.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Such as new players to the team. Such as from the draft.
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago

Such as new players to the team. Such as from the draft.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



No. Draft and develop can only take the team so far, and we have reached that long ago. Now draft and develop is simply to maintain where we are.


The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
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