nerdmann
9 years ago

Hawk had the worst season of his nine-year career, and according to Pro Football Focus, ranked 52nd out of the NFL's top 60 inside linebackers. The previous year, Hawk ranked 47th out of 55 inside linebackers.

Barring a colossal upset, the disappointing duo will both be released and the Packers will save $7.25 million against the salary cap. And when 2015 arrives, Green Bay will have a new batch of inside linebackers to go to battle with.

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Mucky Tundra
9 years ago
Not buying moving Matthews back to OLB full time. After watching him at ILB this year and his struggles against OTs the previous seasons I don't think he's built to battle OTs week in and week out. Looking forward to what Bradford can bring though it's worrisome that he didn't even get time on STs during the regular season. Then again, between Slowcum and the general stubbornness of the coaching staff at times makes it a hard read.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Unless they make a big move in FA to bring in an ILB, I can't see canning both Hawk and Jones. Barrington has looked good but he is still a work in progress and there is no telling what he will become. And there is no other ILB on the team better than Hawk at this time. Even if Matthews would move to ILB full time, there has to be somebody to back up the position that can be counted on.

I would expect Jones to be gone, Hawk to remain. Possibly through a cut and sign deal like they did a few years ago with him. Having a player who knows the defense probably better than any other defensive player, and who has a history of always being available to play. Hawk could be a player coach for the young ILBers.

I would like to see a high pick and a proven not over the hill FA brought in. We can easily afford it.
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9 years ago
My best bet would be they keep either Jones or Hawk and use one of them as a situational player. Likely whichever one will take the highest pay cut. Then they platoon Barrington with Hawk/Jones and an early round pick (2nd or 3rd rounder perhaps?).
DarkaneRules
9 years ago
Barrington showed too much promise. I would be shocked if he was canned but crazier things have happened
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beast
9 years ago

I'm usually one for keeping players and letting them compete, but I feel like I've seen enough for Hawk and Jones. Hawk physically just hasn't been there enough, while Jones usually has the physical potential he hasn't shown the football instincts or toughness to make the most of the potential. Looked like Jones beefed up to get better against the run, but it didn't help his toughness so he just looked slower in quickness (which was a strength of his).

Of course if the Packers were to cut both they would sign a vet to replace at least one of them (which is why I kind of doubt they'll both be cut)... but if that were to happen, my guess is they'd look towards Texans LB Brooks Reed, who has spent time at both OLB and ILB, isn't a stud at either but might be a versatile upgrade.


I wonder if the Packers might go after Cowboys LB Rolando McClain. Cowboys have a number of FAs they need to resign and not a lot of cap, so one or two of their many FA LBers are probably going else where. McClain has a TON of on the field physical talent, but has gotten into a good bit of trouble off the field. Not the normal type of guy the Packers bring in, and especially might not wanting calling the plays at ILB. But hey talent is talent at times if off the field isn't TOO bad (which I haven't looked into too much).

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Zero2Cool (7h) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.
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packerfanoutwest (25-Dec) : Feliz Navidad!
Zero2Cool (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas!
beast (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won
Martha Careful (24-Dec) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
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