TheKanataThrilla
10 years ago
This is the biggest surprise for me. Guion did not initially find many friends amongst fans, but the guy deserves a ton of credit for his play this year. He earned his spot and I for one hope he gets a nice payday next time around.
nerdmann
10 years ago

If the Peppers signing was Woodson-esque, than the Guion signing is more akin to the Pickett signing. And here I thought he might not even make it out of training camp even before it started.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



He barely made it IN to camp.

I still bring Raji back next year on a redemption contract.
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steveishere
10 years ago

He barely made it IN to camp.

I still bring Raji back next year on a redemption contract.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I'd be fine with that. I still think Guion would be better as a DE than as a NT in our defense. He's been pretty good at penetrating into the backfield. If Raji truly can play well at NT then him Daniels and Guion would make a pretty good base line with some pass rush and run stopping ability.
DakotaT
10 years ago
Guion would actually be best as a backup lineman at all three spots. Daniels and Jones at DE, but for the love of God, draft a nose tackle and address the inside linebacker position.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Guion would actually be best as a backup lineman at all three spots. Daniels and Jones at DE, but for the love of God, draft a nose tackle and address the inside linebacker position.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



ILB first. Then see what you can get at NT. Raji/Guion will suffice for a year. Raji might even show he an be the answer.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
Do NOT bring back that God damned lump, Raji! At first, my default point of view toward Guion was hell no - that's because of seeing that worthless piece of shit, Raji, and to only a slightly lesser extent, Pickett. However, Guion has earned the respect of fans with not only his effort, but a fair amount of burst and penetration ability too. I do NOT compare him to Pickett because in his best years, Pickett rarely actually made a tackle - a few near misses and sometimes jamming up blockers. When he and Raji played, it was like having 9 men on D against 11 on offense.

As for next year, yeah, if we can snag an exceptional ILB, I'm for it. Using Matthews inside and the decent job done by Barrington makes that less necessary. I really hope Hawk retires. As for the D Line, Pennell has been a slight disappointment, but they say it takes a while to develop D Linemen. I would not draft a D Lineman early in the draft. The Packers use specialty packages enough that Daniels, Guion, D. Jones, and Pennell is good enough - along with the specialty guys - Neal - who IMO has been a nice surprise, maybe Peppers again, Matthews, Perry, Elliot, etc.

I'm gonna start another thread for what I really want in the first round of the draft rather than redirect this one.
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sschind
10 years ago

Do NOT bring back that God damned lump, Raji! At first, my default point of view toward Guion was hell no - that's because of seeing that worthless piece of shit, Raji, and to only a slightly lesser extent, Pickett. However, Guion has earned the respect of fans with not only his effort, but a fair amount of burst and penetration ability too. I do NOT compare him to Pickett because in his best years, Pickett rarely actually made a tackle - a few near misses and sometimes jamming up blockers. When he and Raji played, it was like having 9 men on D against 11 on offense.

As for next year, yeah, if we can snag an exceptional ILB, I'm for it. Using Matthews inside and the decent job done by Barrington makes that less necessary. I really hope Hawk retires. As for the D Line, Pennell has been a slight disappointment, but they say it takes a while to develop D Linemen. I would not draft a D Lineman early in the draft. The Packers use specialty packages enough that Daniels, Guion, D. Jones, and Pennell is good enough - along with the specialty guys - Neal - who IMO has been a nice surprise, maybe Peppers again, Matthews, Perry, Elliot, etc.

I'm gonna start another thread for what I really want in the first round of the draft rather than redirect this one.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Its not always as easy as replacing EVERYONE you think sucks. The replacements are not always there and even if they are the potential upgrade at one position (NT) may not be as great as the potential upgrade at another (ILB) so you go with what you have at NT for another year. Just using those two positions as examples. It certainly should not be too difficult to replace both if the guys you have are that bad and you forgo a few other improvements.

QCHuskerFan
10 years ago
TT sucks. He never signs any free agents. He never goes out and gets what the team needs on the free agent market. He just sucks.

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musccy
10 years ago

Do NOT bring back that God damned lump, Raji! At first, my default point of view toward Guion was hell no - that's because of seeing that worthless piece of shit, Raji, and to only a slightly lesser extent, Pickett. However, Guion has earned the respect of fans with not only his effort, but a fair amount of burst and penetration ability too. I do NOT compare him to Pickett because in his best years, Pickett rarely actually made a tackle - a few near misses and sometimes jamming up blockers. When he and Raji played, it was like having 9 men on D against 11 on offense.

As for next year, yeah, if we can snag an exceptional ILB, I'm for it. Using Matthews inside and the decent job done by Barrington makes that less necessary. I really hope Hawk retires. As for the D Line, Pennell has been a slight disappointment, but they say it takes a while to develop D Linemen. I would not draft a D Lineman early in the draft. The Packers use specialty packages enough that Daniels, Guion, D. Jones, and Pennell is good enough - along with the specialty guys - Neal - who IMO has been a nice surprise, maybe Peppers again, Matthews, Perry, Elliot, etc.

I'm gonna start another thread for what I really want in the first round of the draft rather than redirect this one.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Why am I not surprised to read this take from you on Raji :)

Doubt Hawk (or Brad Jones 🙏 🙏 🙏 ) will be back in GB next year, but also doubt he'll will retire. As for Pennell, he was a UDFA from a D2 school. I know he's reported to have tons of talent, but again, he was a UDFA from a D2 school.
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