Zero2Cool
16 years ago

[img_r]http://cmsimg.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=U0&Date=20081021&Category=PKR01&ArtNo=81021157&Ref=AR&Profile=1058&MaxW=150&Border=0[/img_r]Going into training camp, defensive backs coach Kurt Schottenheimer endorsed Tramon Williams as a starting-caliber cornerback for the Green Bay Packers.

Given Williams sound play in the last four games while starter Al Harris has recovered from a torn spleen, the Packers have more reason to think Williams can be a worthy successor to Harris or Charles Woodson in the next couple of years in their demanding bump-and-run coverage scheme.

Definitely, Schottenheimer said Tuesday. Hes a very, very talented kid that has tremendous work ethic, and its like any young player, they have to have an opportunity to perform. What you hope is they get better with each experience. Hes done that. Hes certainly got a bright future.

Williams probably will lose his starting role over this weekends bye because Harris is expected back from his injury for the next game, Nov. 2 at Tennessee.

However, seeing Williams' development in game settings is important to the Packers both for the present, because he still will be on the field for about half the defensive snaps as the No. 3 cornerback, and for the future.

Defensive coordinator Bob Sanders scheme is predicated on having cornerbacks who excel in press coverage. The Packers' accomplished starters are approaching the end of their careers. Harris is 33, Woodson 32. So, General Manager Ted Thompson will have to keep the position well stocked for their departures.

Thompson has two young draftees in Will Blackmon (fourth round, 2006) and Pat Lee (second round, 2008) as developmental prospects, and he probably will add a cornerback or two every offseason because the position is among the most valuable in the game. Blackmon and Lee are relatively untested Blackmon has been the nickel back while Harris has been out, Lee the No. 4 cornerback whereas Williams has produced as a starter for one-quarter of the season.

Williams hardly has been error-free hes given up his share of receptions and blew a coverage last week against Indianapolis that allowed Anthony Gonzalez a 37-yard reception.

But overall, with Williams in Harris place the past four games, the Packers pass defense didnt decline noticeably. It played its best game of the season last week against Indianapolis quarterback Peyton Manning, one of the NFLs premier players.

Manning finished with an abysmal 46.6 passer rating for several reasons, but as important as any was Williams and Blackmons physical press coverage on outside receivers Gonzalez and Marvin Harrison. Woodson usually matched up with the Colts best receiver, Reggie Wayne, in the slot.

Clearly, there was a great deal of stress on our outside corners in this ballgame because of Peytons ability to throw the ball on the mark down the field, Schottenheimer said. If you looked at the Baltimore game (against Indianapolis the previous week), that tape, good gracious, it was scary. Our ability to stay in good leverage and good position on those guys was critical. I thought the play of the corners was the key.

Williams barely surpasses the Packers minimum height standards for a cornerback they require cornerbacks to be at least 5-foot-10, and hes 5-11 and he has a relatively slight build at 191 pounds. But he also probably is their fastest player at that position, has quickness and good leaping ability, and plays the ball well in the air. He showed all those skills in his two interceptions while in the starting lineup.

The first came against Atlanta, when he ranged off his man on what momentarily looked like an easy 12-yard touchdown pass to tight end Ben Hartsock. Safety Nick Collins bit too hard on a run fake on the play, which left Hartsock uncovered, but Williams saw him in his peripheral vision and darted for the corner of the end zone. Williams closed quickly and snagged quarterback Matt Ryans soft pass with one hand.

I was trying to make a play or force the quarterback to make a harder throw than a wide-open throw, Williams said. As I watched him, I thought maybe they had more field, but they didnt. (Ryan) didnt under throw him, but he didnt throw it fast enough.

On the second interception, at Seattle, he blanketed former Packers receiver Koren Robinson on a go route and after locating the ball, used his inside position as a shield for the easy interception.

It was basically textbook bump-and-running down the field, Williams said.

That Williams has developed into a possible starter is a surprise, because the Packers pro scouting staff plucked him off the street in late November 2006. Hed gone undrafted that year coming out of Louisiana Tech, signed with Houston as a free agent and was cut at the end of training camp.

He finished the season on the Packers practice squad, then made big gains in offseason workouts and practices and won a roster spot in 2007, when he started one game in a nickel package.

Though Williams isnt as big or strong as Harris (6-1, 190) and Woodson (6-1, 202), hes been physical enough to disrupt receivers routes at the line of scrimmage, then use his athletic ability to stay with them on their routes. He also has the temperament NFL teams look for in a cornerback, the ability to immediately shake off getting burned and stay aggressive the next play.

When he first showed up here, I didnt know a thing about him, Schottenheimer said, and I didnt see anything that had me all excited about him. But Speedy (cornerbacks coach Lionel Washington) said to me, This guys got something Schotts. I said, I havent seen it yet.

"He was on the practice squad that year. Then in the offseason, you watch him work, Speedy, youre right, this guys got some athletic ability. With that great work ethic, whatever skills this guys got, hes going to develop them.


UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
16 years ago
I've wanted Lionel as our secondary coach for awhile and this quote here adds some fuel to that for me.

When he first showed up here, I didnt know a thing about him, Schottenheimer said, and I didnt see anything that had me all excited about him. But Speedy (cornerbacks coach Lionel Washington) said to me, This guys got something Schotts. I said, I havent seen it yet.


UserPostedImage
bozz_2006
16 years ago
I'm thrilled about Tramon's performance the last four weeks. makes me feel awesome about the present and the future of the Packers.
UserPostedImage
porky88
16 years ago

I've wanted Lionel as our secondary coach for awhile and this quote here adds some fuel to that for me.

When he first showed up here, I didnt know a thing about him, Schottenheimer said, and I didnt see anything that had me all excited about him. But Speedy (cornerbacks coach Lionel Washington) said to me, This guys got something Schotts. I said, I havent seen it yet.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



The secondary has played well though.

Maybe Marty will get hired this off season and he'll take his brother with him as the D coordinator.

I believe that's why San Diego let him go in the first place actually.
Pack93z
16 years ago

I've wanted Lionel as our secondary coach for awhile and this quote here adds some fuel to that for me.

When he first showed up here, I didnt know a thing about him, Schottenheimer said, and I didnt see anything that had me all excited about him. But Speedy (cornerbacks coach Lionel Washington) said to me, This guys got something Schotts. I said, I havent seen it yet.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



I have said that for a few years.. [strike]105[/strike] 100% agreed.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
IronMan
16 years ago
I agree 185%!
gbpfan
16 years ago
glad to see that tramon is going to be a good corner :icon_smile:
zombieslayer
16 years ago

I've wanted Lionel as our secondary coach for awhile and this quote here adds some fuel to that for me.

When he first showed up here, I didnt know a thing about him, Schottenheimer said, and I didnt see anything that had me all excited about him. But Speedy (cornerbacks coach Lionel Washington) said to me, This guys got something Schotts. I said, I havent seen it yet.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Agreed.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : uh oh
Martha Careful (1-Apr) : Too bad camera's can't spot the ball as well.
Mucky Tundra (1-Apr) : So will the chain gang be gone completely or will they still be around as a backup or whatever?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : The method for measuring first downs in the NFL will switch from chain gangs to camera-based technology in 2025, the league announced.
Martha Careful (1-Apr) : A big step in the right direction. Just put in the college system is very very good.
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : NFL has passed a rule that allows both teams to possess the ball in OT during the regular season
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : Touchbacks on kickoffs will now bring the ball to the 35-yard line.
beast (31-Mar) : It might of gotten more popular recently, but braiding hair (even men) in certain cultures goes back for centuries.
Martha Careful (30-Mar) : Is men braiding their hair a new style thing? Watching the NCAA men's tournament many players have done
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Ha. Well, it'd be nice for folks to reset their own password. Via validated email 😏
beast (29-Mar) : Monopoly was supposed to be an educational game, that show how evil capitalism was and how we should avoid it
beast (29-Mar) : Lol, I was thinking username would be better, as then I wouldn't have to keep an email up to date lol 😂
beast (29-Mar) : Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (29-Mar) : sure is
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Monopoly is a rip off of The Landlord's Game
wpr (27-Mar) : 28 days until the draft
earthquake (27-Mar) : Which seemed strange to my 9 year old self, that you could be a fan for a team other than the one you play for
earthquake (27-Mar) : Nothing eventful happened, other than it being clear that he was a bengals fan
earthquake (27-Mar) : And we went and hung out with him one afternoon, I must have been 9 or so
earthquake (27-Mar) : That’s wild, when I was a kid my friend lived in the same apartment complex in De Pere
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : Only career highspot was a 200 yard rushing game while playing for the Cardinals
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : He is a former Packer. Drafted out of Northern Illinois. Didn't do much in GB.
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Despicable
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Former NFL. I think Packers too
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : NFL RB Leshon Johnson has been charged in a massive dog fighting operation, with the FBI seizing over 190 Pit Bulls
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Some real irony of a QB as short as Wilson playing for the Giants
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Giants country, let's be the tall beings of lore!
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Russell Wilson signs with the Giants.
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (25-Mar) : I don't think there is a significant difference. I use a user name for many. Others email.
Martha Careful (25-Mar) : email
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : would it be better to use EMAIL or USERNAME to log into a site?
wpr (25-Mar) : Thanks Zero
Zero2Cool (24-Mar) : New forum has the ability to Thank a post now.
beast (24-Mar) : And the only time they have won the Championship in an even year, was the first time they did, in 2006.
beast (24-Mar) : Since 2007, there have been 10 odd numbered years, Wisconsin Women have won the Championship in 7 of those 10 odd numbered years.
buckeyepackfan (24-Mar) : Congratulations Lady Badger Hockey Team. NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!
Zero2Cool (23-Mar) : I don't think it's completed yet. it was just announced last month, right?
dhazer (23-Mar) : did netflix ever release the Packers documentary
Zero2Cool (21-Mar) : And it is glorious!
beast (21-Mar) : Unsigned FA QB Rodgers is supposedly in the Steelers building
Martha Careful (19-Mar) : But I don't own a car! So can I still use it in my apartment?
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : btw, new site auto updates
Zero2Cool (19-Mar) : Woohoo!
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

30-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Mar / Random Babble / wpr

28-Mar / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / dfosterf

28-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

26-Mar / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

25-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-Mar / Random Babble / packerfanoutwest

24-Mar / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

21-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

19-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.