A loss is a loss is a loss. I see NOTHING great about it.
The Lions have an easier schedule the rest of the way than we do, and after their lucking out the past few games, it will be tough to pass them up.
If you want to say having the bye at this time is great - getting those guys back, etc., fine, but that has nothing to do with losing this game. Sitting two weeks and stewing over a disgusting loss is not a great or good thing.
The Packers are still a top flight team and should go to and far into the playoffs, but it irks me whenever I see shit like how poor our O Line personnel is compared to other teams who have successfully retooled theirs - the Saints, for example, not to mention the Cowboys and probably several others, The same is true to a lesser extent with the Packers defense. Rather than blaming Capers, I have always praised him for doing a good job of compensating for subpar personnel. The greatness of this team still boils down to Rodgers, Lacy, and the WRs overcoming the mediocrity just about everywhere else, and I still blame Ted Thompson for not maximizing things.
Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker
If the Packers come back from 21 down its a great comeback, if the Lions (or Bears or anyone else) do it it's getting lucky. Face it, the Lions don't suck anymore. They are one of those teams that have retooled. They may still have their annual meltdown and I get the feeling its what we had better hope and pray for because they are not just getting lucky, and they don't suck. We may very well have a hard time catching or passing them.
I do agree that I see nothing great that comes from this loss. We were what 13-1, lost to the Chiefs and everyone said it was a great loss because it will "wake them up" or "give them a shot of realism" or whatever BS trite phrase fans wanted to use to make it sound like it was a good thing. How did that work out for us in the long run.
For losses like this to be good things thing it has to expose weaknesses in the team that get addressed. Well, weaknesses were exposed alright but I don't know if they were new weaknesses that were heretofore unknown or just old weaknesses that were known but not addressed and made to look not as bad as they really were inthe past few weeks.
This is only the second full game I have watched all year (Seattle was the other) and it sucked. I felt that if we could keep it within 1 score we had a chance because we could possibly tie it and win it in the end. I thought we might get lucky and get a pick of our own (or fumble recovery) to allow us to make up the 1 score deficit and go ahead but once we went down by 2 TD's I felt it was over. I had no confidence that our defense could stop the Saints from scoring twice. We allowed the Saints receivers to get open over the middle every fricking time. Yeah, we had decent tackling and they didn't seem to kill us with YAC but it seemed like every fricking pass was complete. I now know the frustration of those of you saying we need LBs that can cover.
I don't care what their record was, the saints are a great offensive team. I didn't expect it would be easy but I did expect to win. Millertime says the game was closer than it seemed in the end but I have the opposite feeling. I had the feeling the Saints had their way with us and the only reason it wasn't a Patriots/Bears type game was because Rodgers kept us in it.
Yes, We were missing 3 starters on defense and MAYBE that would have made a difference I don't know. Yes, maybe Rodgers hammy thing affected the way he played. Yes I think both interceptions could have been avoided and were not Rodgers' fault but still I don't get the feeling it would have made much of a difference. I didn't see much in this team that said we can BEAT this team. It said we can hang in there with this team and maybe pull it out. We CAN win this game but we can't BEAT this team. The Saint's pretty did what they wanted all night long. I know some will say but look at those times when we held them to field goals but my response to that would be yeah, it kept it from being a blowout earlier rather than later.
It may sound like I'm getting all doom and gloom and saying its over but really that is not the case. I do feel that it is possible that we pull it together and pass the Lions and win the division and win a playoff game or two and even the Superbowl. In part because I think this team is good enough to do that but also in part because I have seen no team besides the Broncos really distance themselves in my mind. The cowboys have a chance to do that tonight for me with a convincing win but so far they are just another very good team like the Cardinals and even the Eagles and the Lions. Of course some of it is obviously a bit of homerism as well. I just don't think there is very much positive to come out of a performance like the one the Packers showed last night.
Probably what made it worse was I watched it with my mom who is 70 something and knows absolutely nothing about football and after almost every single play she made a very audible "tsk" sound. It got very annoying and I couldn't just tell her to go to bed. Finally about midway through the 4th quarter she says "it doesn't seem like the Packers are doing very good does it? Why don't they try something else?" If ever there was a time I wanted to tell her to shut the hell up that was it.
At least my nephews played well. One scored 2 TDs and lead his team to the top seed in his division and a first round playoff bye and the other played almost the entire game on the D line and even though he was double teamed almost every down and got pushed around by some bigger and better kids a few time he pretty much held his own and was always around the ball. I haven't seen a lot of good Packer football this year but honestly I haven't really missed it.
I suppose one good thing the loss did for me was to help reiterate what the real important things are and quite honestly the real important things do not include the NFL.