texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
The Rams 90 yard punt return: they faked out everybody by setting up blocking to the left when the ball went to the right, BUT the fake punt returner on the left seemed to be signaling fair catch - Pete Carroll seemed to be complaining that the fair catch signal 40 or 50 yards away from where the punt came down should have prevented the return. Anybody know what the rule is on that?

Whether they got shafted or not on that punt return, the Seahawks definitely got screwed on that fumble recovery that wasn't reviewed in the last seconds. All of that is a measure of justice, though for the game they stole from the Packers.

Unfortunately, I had to watch the last quarter of this game when damn Fox cut away from the Packers game when it was 35-3.
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IronMan
10 years ago
Mike Pereira posted this on his twiter: "There was no fair catch signal in STL so the return is legal."

Since this was a scoring play, it was automatically reviewed. I'm assuming part of the review was to determine if there was a fair catch signal.
sschind
10 years ago

The Rams 90 yard punt return: they faked out everybody by setting up blocking to the left when the ball went to the right, BUT the fake punt returner on the left seemed to be signaling fair catch - Pete Carroll seemed to be complaining that the fair catch signal 40 or 50 yards away from where the punt came down should have prevented the return. Anybody know what the rule is on that?

Whether they got shafted or not on that punt return, the Seahawks definitely got screwed on that fumble recovery that wasn't reviewed in the last seconds. All of that is a measure of justice, though for the game they stole from the Packers.

Unfortunately, I had to watch the last quarter of this game when damn Fox cut away from the Packers game when it was 35-3.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Didn't the Bears do that to us a few years ago. I recall a similar argument being made back then.

Smokey
10 years ago
The question is moot, as the touchdown play was reviewed . That said it was a unique and imaginative play based on illusion as is much a magician would do. Well done Rams !
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Smokey
10 years ago
As this thread is titled "Rules Question" , Then I have a question .

Where or how may you or I gain access to the ,"Official NFL Rules Book" ? If anyone knows/or has an

answer, please post the answer here . Thank You . 😄
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OlHoss1884
10 years ago
From the NFL rule book:

"The member of the receiving team must raise one arm a full length above his head and wave it from side to side while kick is in flight. (Failure to give proper sign: receivers’ ball five yards behind spot of signal.) Note: It is legal for the receiver to shield his eyes from the sun by raising one hand no higher than the helmet. "

Note it does not say the guy catching the ball has to be the guy who makes the signal. It also says you can't hit the guy making the signal, but does not say that you can't hit the guy who catches it if he DOESN'T make the signal. However this is implied since the ball is dead if the fair catch signal is given and the receiving team receives the ball.

In this case, the officials rules there was no signal given, but had there been, it should have been dead ball.

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PackFanWithTwins
10 years ago
If they had ruled the "fake" returner signaled for a fair catch, than the ball should have been dead at the spot it was caught.

Rule 10, Section 2, Article 3 (a)(3)
If the ball is caught or recovered by a teammate who did not make a valid fair-catch signal, the ball is dead
immediately, but it is not a fair catch. The ball will next be put in play by a snap by the receiving team at the dead-ball spot (or at the succeeding spot after enforcement of any applicable penalties).



I don't think whether a fair catch was called or not is reviewable.
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