DoddPower
10 years ago

2013- Packers ran 66.8 plays/ game
2012- 64.7

In the last 2 years, no team has averaged 75 plays/ game. The Chip Kelly offense averaged only 65.4 last year.

Rather than overanalyze McCarthy's statement, I think he meant "Our goal is to have the ball on offense more than we did last year. My reasoning is that gives us more chances to score and leaves less chance for the opponent."

Now, feel free to analyze the attire he was wearing when giving the statement. Since it's the off season and there is no real news.

This news flash just in. ARod just completed an interview in Maine while on vacation. He said, and I quote,"Our goal is to win the Super Bowl." Wait. Where did that come from? What do you think he meant? Is it significant that he was not wearing a Packer t shirt when he said it? He was drinking a Lite beer. Does he think he's fat? News Flash- "ARod is trying to lose weight before the season. If he can't, they have no hope of Super Bowl title." (I should be a reporter...)

Off season stinks.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



When I read McCarthy's statement you quoted, it just makes me think the defense needs to get better. If the defense could get the opposing offenses off the field quickly on a routine basis, the offense would have the ball more. Theoretically, anyway. McCarthy is an offensive guy though.
DakotaT
10 years ago
Why in the hell would we want to speed things up when we have a smash mouth, old school, power running back? Man, i read some stupid shit in here once in a while. Now is the time to have a balanced offense and wear teams down, and most importantly have a rested defense.
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StarrMax1
10 years ago

From another angle,

Packers offense has 5 possesions, run 15 plays each possesion, that's 75 plays.

That would be where the Smash-mouth football would come in.

Probably wouldn't happen that way, but seems The Packers are striving to be a balanced team.

A team that could put together a 15 play drive, allowing the D to be fresh, but at any time Aaron and co. could light it up for a quick score.

That is more likely to happen if the opponent starts to play the run.

I didn't read it as MIke wanting to run a Chip Kelly style of offense, but a no huddle does put the defense in a whole if they can't make their subsitutions.

Nothing stopping the Packers from running the ball out of the no huddle.
Dexter_Sinister
10 years ago

Why in the hell would we want to speed things up when we have a smash mouth, old school, power running back? Man, i read some stupid shit in here once in a while. Now is the time to have a balanced offense and wear teams down, and most importantly have a rested defense.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



The Packers have had a positive TOP on offense every year McCarthey has been our head coach.

An increase in TOP has no impact on winning %. As TOP goes up, winning percentage stays exactly the same.

It is much more important to focus on being efficient with the ball than it is to work on keeping the ball longer.

It doesn't help to hold onto the ball a long time if you don't score with it. It doesn't hurt to score quickly.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

This is only a good idea IF your defense is any good.

The benefit to running 75 plays is the speed at which you're running them will stop the opposing defense from making substitutions. You'll force them to use all their time outs or put them in a situation where what D they started with on 1st down is the one they'll have to play on 2nd and 3rd. I didn't read the article yet but I have to believe ths is why you would do such a thing.

I'm very surprised to read this is how we're approaching offense. Should make drafting Packers for fantasy football even easier.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



You can prevent the other team from substituting by going no-huddle. That doesn't mean you have to snap the ball right away.

And as a matter of fact, a little tempo might help do away with these goddam lulls we keep experiencing week after week.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Why in the hell would we want to speed things up when we have a smash mouth, old school, power running back? Man, i read some stupid shit in here once in a while. Now is the time to have a balanced offense and wear teams down, and most importantly have a rested defense.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Maybe it's disinfo, like when Ron Wolf publicly stated he wanted to draft Rex Grossman. LOL
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nerdmann
10 years ago

The Packers have had a positive TOP on offense every year McCarthey has been our head coach.

An increase in TOP has no impact on winning %. As TOP goes up, winning percentage stays exactly the same.

It is much more important to focus on being efficient with the ball than it is to work on keeping the ball longer.

It doesn't help to hold onto the ball a long time if you don't score with it. It doesn't hurt to score quickly.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



If we burned some clock against the Niners in week 1, they would have had 1/3 less plays, hence much less yardage and much fewer snaps.

Defenses play better when they're not worn down.
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DoddPower
10 years ago

If we burned some clock against the Niners in week 1, they would have had 1/3 less plays, hence much less yardage and much fewer snaps.

Defenses play better when they're not worn down.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I'm sick of all the excuses for the defense. It's not the offenses job to make it easier on the defense. The defense needs to make stops regardless of what situation they are in. It's the offenses job to score points, nothing else. Anything beyond scoring points is a bonus. But the defense needs to step up and carry its weight regardless of offensive time of possession, or any other offensive factor.
mi_keys
10 years ago

If we burned some clock against the Niners in week 1, they would have had 1/3 less plays, hence much less yardage and much fewer snaps.

Defenses play better when they're not worn down.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



If we slow it down we have a 1/3 less plays, hence much less yardage and much fewer snaps. If you slow the game down, BOTH teams end up with fewer plays.

The offense should operate at the tempo at which it is most effective: i.e. most points per possession. If that's running the hurry up, run the hurry up. If that's grinding out a slow methodical game, do that. If the defense wants a rest, force a three and out.
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DarkaneRules
10 years ago
Patriots run a very effective up tempo offense which I would want to emulate. You have to have a great QB to pull it off. We have a great QB. Let's do it!
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