play2win
10 years ago
Yeah, I like Allen Robinson a lot. Would be thrilled if we were to draft him.
Wade
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10 years ago
Sleeper for me means someone I hope 31 other GMs aren't thinking about, but Ted is.

1. Nat Berhe. (unfortunately, while people aren't talking about him, I seriously doubt GMs aren't thinking about him. I won't be surprised if he goes to someone as high as early third. For some reason this guy makes me think more of Nick Collins than any other safety out there. And that's what GB's looking for, right?
2. (seconding what play2win says) Zach Moore.
3. (seconding play2win again) Derrell Johnson.
4. Matt Armstrong, C, Grand Valley State.
5. Rajion Neal, RB, Tennessee. Packers don't need a RB, but adding a pass-catching RB late would be okay. This guy may have hands second only to Charles Sims in this draft. Probably not a true sleeper, though.
6. Colt Lyerla, TE, Oregon. I don't know if he counts as a sleeper, since his off-the-field stuff makes him visible. But he's someone I expect going higher than a lot think.
7. Marcel Jensen, TE, Fresno State.
8. Sam Longo, OT, Cincinnati.
9. Jamie Meder, DL, Ashland.
10. Brock Coyle, ILB, Montana.
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wpr
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10 years ago

Sleeper for me means someone I hope 31 other GMs aren't thinking about, but Ted.
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Originally Posted by: Wade 




That is the definition of UDFA. Naturally every player has been thought of by the other GMs to some degree or another.

To me a sleeper is someone who does better than their drafted position. Someone who is drafted in the 4th and starts immediate is a sleeper. Someone who is drafted in the 3rd-5th round this year and is All Pro next year. (I am avoiding Pro Bowl as it is a tainted award.)
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Yerko
10 years ago
My definition of a sleeper would reflect some of the guys on the current Packers roster...

Casey Hayward- Was projected a 3-4th rounder, Ted comes in with a 2nd round selection and he plays to that potential or higher in that first year. Exceeds his draft stock/projection by the many.

Mike Daniels- Was projected as a 4-5th rounder and was selected in the 4th round by the Packers in 2012. Was one of the best defensive linemen on the Packers roster, playing above his 4th round projection.

Josh Sitton- Can't find any draft projections on him, wasn't invited to the NFL Combine and was selected in the 4th round in 2008. Pro Bowl alternate in 2010 and Pro Bowl alternate in 2013 (played).

I'd like to use Jarrett Boykin because he is becoming a good player but he was undrafted.
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wpr
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10 years ago
Yerko undrafted players certainly can be sleepers too. Any of them who succeed like Williams and Shields have to be thought of as sleepers.
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buckeyepackfan
10 years ago
Sleeper for Packers, considering not much has been said about a lineman in the 1st rnd.

Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame.

Said to be able to play all 5 line positions and has the talent to be a starting Center in The NFL.

I doubt he falls to 21, but if there is a run on QB's and Defensive players it could happen.
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play2win
10 years ago

Sleeper for Packers, considering not much has been said about a lineman in the 1st rnd.

Zack Martin, OT, Notre Dame.

Said to be able to play all 5 line positions and has the talent to be a starting Center in The NFL.

I doubt he falls to 21, but if there is a run on QB's and Defensive players it could happen.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



True. He could drop that far. I would not be happy though. We have more pressing needs.
Wade
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10 years ago
I would love it if Martin falls.

Won't happen, though. 😢
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