Ryan Shazier, C.J. Mosley among the top picks for Packers in mock drafts· Page 2

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

lol Zobel has Mosely as his 14 overall player yet has us passing on him for Shazier at 21. Wish people would shut up about Kaepernick we don't even play SF this year.

play2win
Senior Member

10 years ago

#12

lol Zobel has Mosely as his 14 overall player yet has us passing on him for Shazier at 21. Wish people would shut up about Kaepernick we don't even play SF this year.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Mosley has an injury history that no one is talking about.... and, you can guarantee we won't meet up with SF in the playoffs this season? Hmm. OK. whatever. We've only lost to them 4 times in a row.

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#13

Mosley has an injury history that no one is talking about.... and, you can guarantee we won't meet up with SF in the playoffs this season? Hmm. OK. whatever. We've only lost to them 4 times in a row.

Originally Posted by: play2win

If that's his problem then he shouldn't rank him as a top 15 player, it doesn't make sense. We play a lot more physical running teams than we do running QB teams. It would be nice to have a guy in there whose not going to get steamrolled up the middle halfway through the year when his weight drops to 220. The problem we've had with AP and most problems in the running game is not getting hands on them it's bringing them down when we do get hands on. By all means though lets pass on better players for the sake of 1 guy that we have a very small chance of seeing much of in the next few years.

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#14

I don't think it's going to be ILB in the 1st anyways. I think the coaches like Hawk/Jones a lot more than everybody else does. More likely to be a DB or some type of lineman I think.

play2win
Senior Member

10 years ago

#15

Well, I'm not the least bit concerned about a LB with 143 tackles and 22.5 tackles for loss getting "steamrolled." Shazier would have set all-time records at Ohio State for solo tackles and total tackles had he stayed his senior year. That puts him into some pretty remarkable company, on top of the list.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#16

Somebody's going to get this right, I hope you are not the one.

I'm sure hoping Calvin Pryor or Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State fall to The Packers at 21.

Neither Mosley or especially Shazier grade out to be a #21 pick.

Shazier is an OLB, to think he can come to The Packers and be an immediate upgrade on the inside is just ridiculous.(WHO THE HELL IS MEL KYPER???)

Any of the below fall to 21 I think Ted drafts them, if none of these guys are available, look for Ted to try and find a trade partner to move down a bit or to move completely out of the 1st rnd and pick up extra 2nd and 3rd rnd picks.

Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina(no way)
Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State(slight possibility)
Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA(prob not)
Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina(possible)
Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo( prob not)
Hasean Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama(slight possibility)
Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh(could happen)
Calvin Pryor, FS, Louisville(best chance of happening)

One thing I will guarantee is, if The Packers are talking about a guy now, probably not a very good chance they will be drafting him next week.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Yeah I am not saying this is who I want them to get. I am just saying JSOnline are almost acting like it is a done deal.

Mel Kyper is Mel Kiper's evil close. He has a whole lot more smarts and don't have half the ego.

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member

10 years ago

#17

If we played a 4-3 or already had a physical thumper at ILB then I could see going with Shazier. With our current cast I'm not sure where he'd fit in. Mosley and his injuries scare me but then again, that might be the trend of the future. Guys playing high level football with a lot snaps with clean bill of health might be a luxury going forward.

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wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

#18

I don't think it's going to be ILB in the 1st anyways. I think the coaches like Hawk/Jones a lot more than everybody else does. More likely to be a DB or some type of lineman I think.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

I love to watch all of the experts predictions. Some of them get a few of them right. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut every now and then. But he further they move from the top picks the more selections they miss on.

GB certainly has a big board and who they value the most. They have an rough idea of what some of the teams are going for. They will be talking to the other teams looking to move up and down depending on how Day 1 progresses and the offers they get and make. With all that going on they are for the most part "sitting" there watching to see who drops in their lap. Just like Aaron did in 2005. I doubt they get that kind of value from the 2014 selection but you just never know. Especially the so called experts.

porky88
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#19

Shazier has the rare type of athleticism to do whatever he wants. He can play inside or outside linebacker. He’s scheme versatile. Because of his speed, I’d love to see him in a Tampa 2, but I can see him moving inside in a 3-4 and becoming NaVorro Bowman.

He's the total package. He was also insanely productive. You get prospects who are athletes and some people complain about their lack of production. You get productive prospects and others complain about their lack of athleticism. Shazier had over 100-plus tackles for Ohio State. He’s not without flaws. His size (222 pounds) is an issue, but it’d become less of an issue if the Packers put good talent in front of him along the defensive line.

He has grown on me over the last month. Would I take him at No. 21? It depends on who is on the board. I’d prefer Calvin Pryor, Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix, and C.J. Mosley to him. However, his combination of production, athleticism, and upside makes him a round one pick. I wouldn’t be shocked if Arizona scoops him up at No. 20 in front of the Packers.

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steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

#20

I will say 1 player I was originally against just because I don't really like the type is Louis Nix but I started watching some of his games and he started to grow on me. He's your typical 2 gap nose tackle type but he stood out to me because it seemed like he was spending a lot of his plays in the opponents back field. He's not going to be the guy who brings down the QB but he'll sure make it hard for him to step up. Just a thought of someone they might go with since I'd rather not re-sign Raji even if he has a good year (don't trust him to perform after a payday).

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