Zero2Cool
11 years ago

Green Bay — This sight of Darren Sharper is painful. The Darren Sharper in an orange prison suit — accused of sick, demented crimes — isn't the one former teammates remember.

LeRoy Butler knew him as one of his "best friends," who treated women like royalty.

Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila knew him as a jokester, a teammate who once snuck a worm into his helmet on the sideline.

Antonio Freeman played video games with Sharper. Tyrone Williams talked about the stock market with him. Coaches vow he was a tireless worker.

They never saw him as a serial rapist. And, if guilty, that may become the former Green Bay Packers safety's ultimate legacy.

"I never, ever could have imagined seeing what has allegedly happened with Darren Sharper," said Williams, his voice spiking. "I never would have seen this coming. It's mind-boggling."

If all the allegations are true, at some point this multimillionaire with the multimillion-watt smile took an awful turn.

Investigators say Sharper slipped sedatives into women's drinks, rendering them unconscious, at which point he'd rape them. When Los Angeles police arrested Sharper on Jan. 17 on suspicion of October and January rapes, they found 20 Ambien pills in his possession. Since then, he has been charged in Los Angeles with two rapes and five drug counts, indicted for two more rapes in Arizona and is under investigation in Florida, Louisiana and Nevada.

The 38-year-old Sharper has pleaded not guilty and remains jailed in Los Angeles. He has a hearing Tuesday. He faces a life sentence.

No incidents have been alleged in Wisconsin, the site of his first eight pro seasons. This is where he grew from a raw, mistake-prone rookie in 1997 to an all-pro. Teammates didn't see signs. Some have theories of how a player who supposedly had it all — money, women, a Super Bowl, a gig at NFL Network — could break so bad.

But pure shock, above all, is the prevailing emotion.

"Either way, this is going to go down as one of the worst things in NFL history," said Williams, a teammate for six seasons. "I can't think of anything to this magnitude."



http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/ex-packer-teammates-stunned-by-darren-sharper-case-b99247254z1-255264291.html 

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play2win
11 years ago
If true, it is just so stunningly stupid. Unbelievable.
nerdmann
11 years ago
First of all, we know there are a ton of lying, gold digging whores out there. But even if you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, dude SEVEN times!? wtf dude.

Sharper was always a showboat. His ego always was his worst enemy. "First and foremost, I consider myself to be an entertainer." Uh huh. That's why Ted let him walk.

Sharper would get out of position trying to make the highlight reel, instead of playing the assigned D. But RAPE!? Serial rape!? Damn.


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DarkaneRules
11 years ago
No excuses. Rapists are vile creatures not fit for humanity. To hell with them all.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
nerdmann
11 years ago

No excuses. Rapists are vile creatures not fit for humanity. To hell with them all.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



He hasn't been convicted yet. Not looking good, but give him his day in court.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DarkaneRules
11 years ago

He hasn't been convicted yet. Not looking good, but give him his day in court.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Absolutely agree. I was speaking in generalities.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
TheKanataThrilla
11 years ago
I guess my question would be were the Ambien on him and he was out and about or did they just find them at his home? It is strange to go out with a bunch of sedatives to a club.

Hard to phathom as you wouldn't think a guy like him would have to do something like that to sleep with a girl. People have weird fantasies and fetishes so who knows?
nerdmann
11 years ago

I guess my question would be were the Ambien on him and he was out and about or did they just find them at his home? It is strange to go out with a bunch of sedatives to a club.

Hard to phathom as you wouldn't think a guy like him would have to do something like that to sleep with a girl. People have weird fantasies and fetishes so who knows?

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



I think some of it might be cultural. Dunno.

Why Doesn’t Anyone Care About the Sexual Assault Allegations Against Bill Cosby? 

Cosby, Scocca recounts, has been accused of targeting, grooming, then drugging and raping multiple young women as early as the 1970s and as recently as 2004.



Who Wants to Remember Bill Cosby's Multiple Sex-Assault Accusations? 

Lawyers for the woman filed a motion stating that they intended to call as witnesses the woman who'd given the Today show interview and nine separate Jane Does, from seven different states. Eventually the list grew to a reported 13 accusers.



Coming to Minneapolis from Green Bay, I had the good fortune to meet many African Americans, which I would not have met had I stayed there. There are more blacks in Green Bay now than there used to be I guess. But most blacks I meet turn out to be more normal, mainstream and middle class than I am, having grown up in poor dumb, uneducated white trash culture.

However, I think this may be some weird cultural vestige from way back in the day. No excuses of course.
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