texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

Your point is well taken. Keep in mind the writers at Lombardiave.com are not on the same level as ESPN or CBS Sports or the other major media outlets. It is a blog and I would not be surprised if they did not receive any compensation at all. They may since it it tied to SI and there are ads on the site but I am sure they have to have a real job as well. That doesn't mean they should not be held accountable at all. Don't look for a lot of substance you probably won't find it.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Getting paid has very little to do with being a good writer or not. A lot of people in here and other forums have more to say and say it better than the overrated media types.


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gbguy20
10 years ago
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joemailman
10 years ago

He throws the short high percentage plays underneath as much as anyone else. What are you even talking about? On top of that they routinely have one of the most efficient deep passing attacks of any team int he league. Rodgers is fine how he is and the offense is fine how it is.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Rodgers does often hold on to the ball too long. He doesn't throw in to double coverage (good thing), but he's never been very fond of escaping trouble by dumping the ball of to a back (bad thing). As a result, he takes sacks while trying to buy time for one of his receivers to get open. On the play where he got hurt last year, he held on to the ball at least 4 seconds. That's too long.

steveishere
10 years ago

Rodgers does often hold on to the ball too long. He doesn't throw in to double coverage (good thing), but he's never been very fond of escaping trouble by dumping the ball of to a back (bad thing). As a result, he takes sacks while trying to buy time for one of his receivers to get open. On the play where he got hurt last year, he held on to the ball at least 4 seconds. That's too long.

Originally Posted by: joemailman 



He holds the ball but not because he's always looking for a deep pass or some garbage. If nobody is open right away he looks to extend the play with his feet to either scramble or throw when someone is open. Rodgers throws the underneath passes as much as any other QB in the league that isn't a check down specialist. I don't think we would like the look of this offense if all he did after 3 seconds was throw it to someone who is covered or throw it away.
Mucky Tundra
10 years ago
I don't think that Rodgers doesn't like going with checkdowns to his RBs, it's just that RB has been so up and down the past few seasons he just doesn't have any confidence in the guys back there. He was more than willing to go to Benson, Lacy and Harris on checks once they showed they were reliable. But then Benson got hurt, the season ended with Harris and then he missed last year and Rodgers was out most of last season.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

He holds the ball but not because he's always looking for a deep pass or some garbage. If nobody is open right away he looks to extend the play with his feet to either scramble or throw when someone is open. Rodgers throws the underneath passes as much as any other QB in the league that isn't a check down specialist. I don't think we would like the look of this offense if all he did after 3 seconds was throw it to someone who is covered or throw it away.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Exactly. It's pure CRAP about Rodgers holding the ball too long. Other QBs put the ball up for grabs and get interceptions; Rodgers does not - or does so as rarely as any QB I can remember in 60 or so years. Rodgers buys time and makes plays with his feet better than almost any QB past or present whose primary weapon is his throwing arm.


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nerdmann
10 years ago

Exactly. It's pure CRAP about Rodgers holding the ball too long. Other QBs put the ball up for grabs and get interceptions; Rodgers does not - or does so as rarely as any QB I can remember in 60 or so years. Rodgers buys time and makes plays with his feet better than almost any QB past or present whose primary weapon is his throwing arm.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



He buys time, even when there's guys open underneath.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago

He buys time, even when there's guys open underneath.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



And you have a problem with that?

Let the deep pattern develop; If it doesn't, THEN hit the guy open underneath - and NEVER put it up for grabs. A sack is a setback; An Interception is a disaster.

Never mind that he probably has the best accuracy in the league, I'll take Rodgers' method and judgment also over that of any other QB.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

And you have a problem with that?

Let the deep pattern develop; If it doesn't, THEN hit the guy open underneath - and NEVER put it up for grabs. A sack is a setback; An Interception is a disaster.

Never mind that he probably has the best accuracy in the league, I'll take Rodgers' method and judgment also over that of any other QB.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



LOL

It takes longer to run farther downfield than it takes to run short routes dude. Not sure you get that.
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steveishere
10 years ago

LOL

It takes longer to run farther downfield than it takes to run short routes dude. Not sure you get that.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



When the QB leaves the pocket the WRs don't just run farther downfield, they work back toward the ball and just try to get open. Not to mention I've yet to see anything that convinces me that Rodgers passes up check downs significantly more than anybody else like you keep saying.
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