Packers' effort to move Mike Neal might be all for naught· Page 2

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Sounds good to me. Solve the Safety problem in free agency (or with supremely good luck, Nick Collins), then get a top flight OLB in the first round. And the type of OLB you are talking about, I like that also.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Or just sign a prove 3-4 OLB via free agency. Ted Thompson obviously doesn't have the best luck finding those types of players in the draft.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#12

It is interesting. We DO need prototypical 3-4 LBs, both OLB and ILB. I would love to Ted to draft one or two high, and get the best he can possibly land. We need that.

As for Neal, I wonder if he is done developing as a OLB, and I would think not. Maybe he is about to become something special. To me, this is one of the key problems in strict D & D… the amount of time it takes many of these players to find their groove and become key contributors. At this point, we are not really absolutely sure what we have with this player...

Originally Posted by: play2win

Slim him down a little more and move him to S!

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texaspackerbacker
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11 years ago

#13

Or just sign a prove 3-4 OLB via free agency. Ted Thompson obviously doesn't have the best luck finding those types of players in the draft.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Seems like the chances of a LB either O or I being able to play effectively in his first year after the draft are better than a rookie Safety. Safety also seems to be the more urgent immediate problem. I'd rather they get the Safety in free agency, and use maybe the first two draft picks for LBs. Not to defend Thompson to too great an extent, but he did draft Matthews.

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play2win
Senior Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#14

He also drafted Collins…

Regardless, I don't particularly want us suffering through another two year learning curve window for a rookie S, and would rather see them land a good veteran if one is available. Byrd would be incredibly awesome for us, IMO.

As for Neal, I would rather go with a proven upgrade at OLB than roll the dice with Neal developing further.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

Safety is fine, too. But depending on rookies to come in and excel in their rookie season would really keep me up at night. I could never be a general manager using Ted Thompson's style. As I have said before, he just seems to trust 21-23 year olds who have never played in the NFL before much more than I would. 🙂

beast
Select Member

11 years ago

#16

Just because one player (Walden) gets over paid doesn't mean another player (Neal) will... though it could. I think the Packers really like Neal and still would like to use him at both OLB and DL.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#17

I tend to agree with Beast on this one

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DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#18

Just because one player (Walden) gets over paid doesn't mean another player (Neal) will... though it could. I think the Packers really like Neal and still would like to use him at both OLB and DL.

Originally Posted by: beast

True, but I would much rather have Neal than Walden. I'm sure there are plenty of NFL general managers that feel the same way. There will be a market for him. Hopefully it's not too much, though, because Neal disappears far too much to be worth a big contract. Good backup/rotational player, though.

DakotaT
Select Member

11 years ago

#19

I do like Mike Neal, but he is no OLB in a 3-4. He's a 4-3 DE and should go play for a team that uses him in that capacity.

I wish we would quit putting these square pegs in round holes and just go get a proven OLB in free agency - same with our SS position. We're fucking up and wasting Rodgers career, just like we did with Cock n Crocs.

Wade
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#20

Neal, IMO, is pretty much a back-up kind of player. The kind of player you like to have for depth, but nothing special. If you get him for back up dollars, you keep him; if you don't, you let him go and you find another back-up kind of guy to replace him.

The Packers' problem is they need more and improved starter-quality players. Several more. They have no shortage of depth on defense -- what they lack is demonstrated high-level starters.

Definite starter quality: Matthews, Daniels, T. Williams, Shields (if re-signed), Hawk.
Probably starter quality: Hayward, Burnett (call 2013 his mulligan year).
To soon to call, so give benefit of doubt and assume they develop. But still potential only: Perry, Datone Jones.
Worth giving a serious chance to start, but if he can't beat out Brad Jones? Lattimore.
I wish it weren't true, but he looked seriously on decline last year: Pickett.
The rest? I find it hard to get excited about any of them. Backups all.

Neal included.

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