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Pack93z
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10 years ago
I got to thinking about the twists and turns of this season, aside from injuries what is ailing this team. We can talk X's and O's of the game, more concerning on the defensive side of the ball for me than the offense, especially now that we have a running game to pair with the passing game that we know is effective. But I think the bigger topic comes down to personnel more so front line talent than depth as I think we still have better depth than most teams.

I think the concern, especially on defense, is that the front line talent struggles at times; especially up the center of the defense... meaning nose, inside backers and safeties. Guys like Burnett and Jones getting signed to decent contracts but not living up to those deals; picking on these two because the deals are recent. If BJ Raji would have inked his 8mil/year deal he would have been clumped in as well.

How could we have missed the evaluations on these guys by this much? Or was it just an off year for the pair. Or is there something more that is affecting the personnel department of the Packers.. transition so to speak.

In 2010 John Schneider left for Seattle.
In 2012 Reggie McKenzie left for Oakland.
Last year John Dorsey to the Chiefs.

Now it sounds like Alonzo Highsmith is being targeted by the Bucs and Dolphins.. being that he is from Florida, I am sure both have some appeal.

So we talk about injuries affecting of depth charts on the field, on has to wonder how much these moves have hurt the Packers in terms of not only acquiring talent, but evaluating and retaining our expiring players.

One also has to project forward a bit with how long Ted stays and if there will be anyone left on staff to transition to? Or will they have to hit the open market for an eventual successor.
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play2win
10 years ago
The attrition in the personnel staff has to have hurt. How much larger the hits will be is a big concern, especially with regards to Highsmith.

I can't help but think that Elliot Wolf is being groomed as Ted's eventual successor. I wonder how he might round out his own staff should that happen.

Big changes here, for sure.

I agree too that $37M worth of suspect evaluations on Burnett and Jones could be doing some real damage.
nerdmann
10 years ago

The attrition in the personnel staff has to have hurt. How much larger the hits will be is a big concern, especially with regards to Highsmith.

I can't help but think that Elliot Wolf is being groomed as Ted's eventual successor. I wonder how he might round out his own staff should that happen.

Big changes here, for sure.

I agree too that $37M worth of suspect evaluations on Burnett and Jones could be doing some real damage.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



They're grooming Eliot Wolf.

Losing those guys to GM jobs hurts to some degree, but it's not like we don't have anyone else to step up. I kind of viewed them all as mini-GMs the way it was. I mean we really didn't need all those guys. They were somewhat redundant, but too talented to just cast off.

I also think it's an advantage to some degree having them GMing elsewhere. We can swap out players, give each other heads up on marginal players we're cutting and whatnot. Make deals in the draft.

Remember Mike Reinfeld too. He's no longer GMing but he was another good one.

I think our scouts are fine. Our biggest problem is we need to KEEP GUYS HEALTHY.
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Mucky Tundra (1h) : Kanata, seek help! lol
beast (3h) : I was rooting for the Bears to win and hurt their draft pick status
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TheKanataThrilla (3h) : That was terrible.
TheKanataThrilla (3h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.
beast (4h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent
beast (4h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime
beast (4h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing
Zero2Cool (5h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is
Zero2Cool (5h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true
beast (5h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management
wpr (8h) : Watching bares fans melt down over how putrid their team is, so enjoyable. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Mucky Tundra (15h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago
beast (16h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years
Zero2Cool (22h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.
packerfanoutwest (22h) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it
beast (26-Dec) : Sounds like no Alexander (again), I'm wondering if his time with the Packers is done
Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.
Mucky Tundra (26-Dec) : Houston getting dog walked by Baltimore
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beast (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas 🎄🎁
beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won
Martha Careful (24-Dec) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
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