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Laser Gunns
Senior Member

11 years ago

#21

Kaep's runs went right at where Clay would have been.

MintBaconDrivel
Dec, 11, 2012 - FOREVER!

Laser Gunns
Senior Member

11 years ago

#22

3-straight bounces from the playoffs.

Could we be entering Any Reid territory?

MintBaconDrivel
Dec, 11, 2012 - FOREVER!

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#23

Even though we lost I think we had a successful season. We had 2 amazing comebacks at the end of the year. I think those are some of the most memorable games we've had here since the Superbowl run.

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon

It was an exciting season, no doubt, but I really don't think I can consider it "successful." Certainly memorable. They barely made the playoffs, and were eliminated in their first playoff game, which was also the wildcard. There are several better teams in the NFC right now, and unless the Packers can somehow stay substantially healthier, get better coaching, and add a lot more talent, this team will only be "good." They need to be better than that, because I think it's perfectly reasonable for them to be. Do absolutely whatever it takes to find a way to to keep players healthier, and that will go a long way.

pacmaniac
Member

11 years ago

#24

There are several better teams in the NFC right now, and unless the Packers can somehow stay substantially healthier, get better coaching, and add a lot more talent, this team will only be "good."

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Agreed. And there's no reason to think anything will change. The Packers get lots of injuries EVERY year, so next year will probably be the same. McCarthy already said this week he "loves our defense", so Capers will be back. It is truly amazing we somehow won a SB with this crew, we should all be happy about that.

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porky88
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#25

Sorry Porky, but I can't watch Raji and Pickett play D-line anymore! It's embarrassing to watch them stand up and never get any push. Anybody that actually would defend either of those two is a fool. I hope we have enough sense to cut them loose this offseason.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Pickett played well today. He's a big reason why Frank Gore averaged 3.3 yards per carry. I do agree that he has slowed down, though. Today was the exception. I probably wouldn’t bring him back unless it’s a one-year, incentive-laden contract based on snaps. Still, he and Tramon Williams deserve credit for showing up. This is a clear sign of two veterans knowing what was at stake.

I’ll give you Raji. I thought he’d play better this year. With the exception of the San Francisco game, he actually wasn’t bad down the stretch in 2012. Last year’s running woes against Minnesota were linebackers and safeties not doing their jobs in filling the hole. His play did not translate. Instead, he settled into his 2011 version.

Nevertheless, nose tackles don’t routinely produce sacks. Their job is to eat space for the playmakers (linebackers) to make plays. My gripe with Raji is his run defense. He’s soft against the run. That’s what you see with this Packer team. A.J. Hawk and Brad Jones would be better linebackers if they had players in front of them. Why do you think Ray Lewis played as well as he did for so long? His skills diminished sometime in 2009-10, but Haloti Ngata made him better.

As far as the pass rush, Mike Daniels is clearly the best pass-rushing defensive lineman they have. Datone Jones needs to make the leap next year. They went into the year expecting too much of him. Defensive lineman rarely make an impact in year one. This isn’t news to anyone. They make the leap in year two. Let’s hope Jones follows suit and they find a suitable replacement for Raji.

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nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#26

Sometimes the other team is just better. Sack up and quit being a whiny bitch about it. Original plan on O wasn't working adjustments were successfully made the D played a good game overall finally just couldn't come up with the needed stop at the end.

Originally Posted by: steveishere

Sometimes the other team IS better.

However, that is not often with this team. Mike's units have the bad habit of playing down to their opponents. Even when they win, it's despite shitting themselves and only showing up for about half the game.

Why don't YOU sack up and face reality? I like Mike as a QB guru, but as a coach? I think he out thinks himself.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

umair_010
Rookie

11 years ago

#27

i think we can be dangerous with a few changes on the d. we need to get rid of raji asap for starters.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

When a team shits itself into a hole, then tries to rally back to get out of it, week after week, that's not exciting. That's repulsive.

You don't do things right "some of the time." You do things right ALL of the time. A renowned coach once said that.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#29

i think we can be dangerous with a few changes on the d. we need to get rid of raji asap for starters.

Originally Posted by: umair_010

We already are dangers. Unfortunately we're just as dangerous to ourselves than we are to opponents.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: pacmaniac

Exactly. There's no reason to think the Packers will be in any better shape, health-wise, next season. That's why I would assume that Clay Mathews and Nick Perry can't be counted on to be available consistently at OLB, so it needs to be a top priority in the off season. This goes for a few other positions, as well.

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