sschind
11 years ago

If he's not a star in the first 9 weeks of the season, he sucks.

Daniels is a good example. He looked very average last year, but this year seems to be a different player. Some players just take some time. Nothing can be said about Datone Jones other than he needs to keep improving. At least he has made a couple of plays so far, which is better than many draft picks do in their first few games.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



But...but...but... he was a first round draft pick. If not a pro bowl caliber player he should at least be in consideration right? I mean he was a first round pick after all.
texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

Damn Texas, I had to applaud you twice tonight on football issues. Maybe that's what you should stick to, cause your judgment on world issues is just incredibly poor.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



hahahaha I was thinking the same about you. I almost applauded your Mason Crosby post just because it was the first time I saw the new pic of your cute kids.

Back to this thread, Nerdman, I didn't label Datone a bust, I just said he hadn't done much yet. And I suppose it is valid to say sometimes it takes a year or so for a D Lineman to reach his peak. I'm as hopeful as anybody, and I was thoroughly happy when we drafted him, but he is what he is - so far. If you want me to give the 2013 Draft an "incomplete" instead of a B-, fine, you got it.


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nerdmann
11 years ago

hahahaha I was thinking the same about you. I almost applauded your Mason Crosby post just because it was the first time I saw the new pic of your cute kids.

Back to this thread, Nerdman, I didn't label Datone a bust, I just said he hadn't done much yet. And I suppose it is valid to say sometimes it takes a year or so for a D Lineman to reach his peak. I'm as hopeful as anybody, and I was thoroughly happy when we drafted him, but he is what he is - so far. If you want me to give the 2013 Draft an "incomplete" instead of a B-, fine, you got it.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I actually panned the pick at the time. I felt he was undersized for what this D ostensibly wants to do.

But let the dude's ankle heal before we judge.
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Mucky Tundra
11 years ago
I don't have any evidence for this but I think Jones bulking up so fast from his draft weight (280-283 from various draft articles) to 295 when he reported to camp affected his injury recovery.
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DoddPower
11 years ago

I actually panned the pick at the time. I felt he was undersized for what this D ostensibly wants to do.

But let the dude's ankle heal before we judge.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



The undersized thing is a joke. He's the same size as guys like Justin Smith, and several others. His size has nothing to do with his performance, that's for sure.
DarkaneRules
11 years ago
Jones could have been seen as a reach at the time but he will develop. He will be a great pro I believe but many people said he will a progression over the year. Daniels has improved a lot from year 1 to year 2, and I expect the same from Jones next year. He just can't hurt us with penalties like he had against the Vikings. That is unacceptable. He will need to learn from them.
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dhazer
11 years ago
I still think Ted Thompson should trade his 1st round pick every year, I mean the guys always seem to get hurt lately. And Ted Thompson should start using FA to get o-lineman because he sure as hell can't draft them lol.


Since 2005 he has had 9 1st round picks and at first he did ok with 4 of the 1st 5 not injured ( bustin Harrell the only one injured) but the last 4 all have been injured.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

I still think Ted Thompson should trade his 1st round pick every year, I mean the guys always seem to get hurt lately. And Ted Thompson should start using FA to get o-lineman because he sure as hell can't draft them lol.


Since 2005 he has had 9 1st round picks and at first he did ok with 4 of the 1st 5 not injured ( bustin Harrell the only one injured) but the last 4 all have been injured.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Keep in mind, he also drafted Bahktiari.

Sherrod did not have a significant injury history. He just got caught in a pile and his leg snapped. Could have happened to anyone.
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