three things that upset me about the game.

sschind
Senior Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#1, Why in the world does McCarthy feel like he has to run the ball all the freaking time. He has the bestest QB ever to have ever played the game ever and the bestest WR corps to have ever played the game ever. Why does he have to run all the time. He should pass pass pass and then pass some more. And then, just to fool the other team, he should pretend to run and then pass instead.

#2 Another damn game with no 4th quarter comeback for Rodgers. This is really starting to tick me off. What is that, like 1000 or something. What is his problem. It must be all in his head. How can he be considered elite when he can't even mount a stupid 4th quarter comeback. I'm beginning to think he is not as good as most people think he is.

#3 OK, this one is semi serious. What the heck was up with the time out by the Lions after Rodgers took a knee only to have Stafford take a knee. Part of me was wishing they would have given lacy the ball to get him over 100 yards.

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texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: sschind

It's a shame it's sarcastic. I'm about 97% in agreement with your #1. I like the idea of having the ability to run sometimes, but FORCING the run on early downs like today seems annoying and counter-productive to me. After we pass pass pass and then pass some more, then give it to Lacy for a change of pace, and he will be a lot more effective than today, not to mention less likely to be knocked out.

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yooperfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

I was happy with the game plan on both sides of the ball.
I would have liked to see the offense put the ball in the end zone a few more times but the mix of run and pass was more to my liking.
Passing on 3rd and one pissed me off though.
The defense held a dangerous Bush in check nicely.
Calvin Johnson may have made a difference but we'll never know that for sure.

Nice to see Crosby back in the groove but I still cringe when they line up for a field goal.

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

Our first scoring drive, 1st and goal at the 6 or 7, and he passes... Just run the freaking ball. If you are 1st and goal, and you run it 3 straight times, you'll score a TD better than 75% of the time. An old Easterbrook maxim that I believe still holds true today. Why is that so hard to understand? I mean, for a HC and offensive genius? Mike McCarthy, you're making this game much more difficult than it needs to be.

How many 3rd and 1s did we have, and he goes to a pass? Crazy. Just run the damn ball, and score!

Wow. It takes this guy half a season to figure out how to run the ball. Every year. Mike McCarthy, just run. It does wonders for scoring and for the pass game too. You've got the backs. Run the football, with confidence. We should have blown DET out far worse than we did. I love seeing 28 attempts by our RBs, as this is way better than Mike has done in the past, but I think we can push that into the 30s easily with far better results. We should be doing 30+ attempts by our RBs every game.

Also, I would love to see more INTs from our secondary. Other than that, great win! Holding Reggie Bush to 44 rushing yds was masterful work by our defense. Nice work in the front 7 by the Packers.

Porforis
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#3 OK, this one is semi serious. What the heck was up with the time out by the Lions after Rodgers took a knee only to have Stafford take a knee. Part of me was wishing they would have given lacy the ball to get him over 100 yards.

Originally Posted by: sschind

Or run a fake punt. Or call a timeout when they tried to kneel.

PackFanWithTwins
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker

I count 15 runs on 1st down with Lacy for the following.
1 - negative run (-3)
1 - No gain
5 - 3 yards
1 - 4 yards
1 - 6 yards
2 - 7 yards
2 - 8 yards
1 - 9 yards
* 1 - 13 yards (only counted 3 on account of Boykin holding penalty)

2 runs on 1st from Franklin
1 and -1 (fumble)

2 from Cobb for 67, 5.

With that production, run the damn ball every 1st down until defenses can stop it. The biggest reason, there was such a high number of runs on 1st is because of the Lions formations. They wre playing light in the box.

Where I see a play calling problem was 2nd and especially 3rd downs. There we ended up 27 passes to 9 runs.

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Yerko
Senior Member

11 years ago

Schwartz said he took the timeout to try and block the punt and score and then a possible onside kick. There is like a .000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance but you never know.

...still hate him.

Gaycandybacon
Member

11 years ago

hahahahaha

So when you people want the Packers to run and they're not you get upset..

But now that he's running it now it's too much...?

hahahahaha

texaspackerbacker
Veteran Member

11 years ago

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins

The figures are a little bit skewed by the long run of Cobb - more in the category of a trick play that an ordinary run. Other than that, using your figures, there were about 11 plays resulting in 2nd and long and 6 plays resulting in 2nd and fairly short - and nothing over 9 yards. I don't know about the rest of you, but I prefer the usual Packer way - pass pass pass and pass some more - setting up occasional runs that 3 or 4 of which probably gain more than all 15 of those.

Even I would rather see a run on 3rd and 1 - unless, of course, you can pull off the old Bart Starr thing. Running 3 times from the 6 or 7 yard line, though? Nope, not a good idea. I'll take Rodgers passing 3 times over those 3 runs any day. You get to first down on the 3, and yeah, run it in, but not the 6 or 7.

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Pack93z
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11 years ago

#10

The Packers, in establishing the run effectively and using it, will become a more complete team overall and one that will see their defense improve week after week. Personally, it was the best game we have had in terms of balance in recent years.. and we will be a better team for it.

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