Starter Pack: More on Rodgers, comebacks

MintBaconDrivel
Senior Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

A roundup of what's happening on the Green Bay Packers beat. Considerable time has been spent this week writing about and discussing quarterback Aaron Rodgers' record in close games and comeback situations in large part because he failed to lead a fourth-quarter comeback drive in last Sunday's 34-30 loss at Cincinnati. Much of the discussion centered around an ESPN Insider piece by Football Outsiders' Scott Kacsmar, who went so far as to say Rodgers' sub-par record in close games -- 5-24 in games when Rodgers had the ball in the fourth quarter and trailed by between one and eight points -- prevents him from being classified as one of the game's truly great quarterbacks.

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sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

I'm usually not a fan of Mike Vandermause (his article was linked to in the article referenced in this thread) but he hit this one on the head. Rodgers has had his share of games let go by the defense in the 4th quarter and if even half those games were won his numbers would look better. Of course other QBs are in the same situation so his ranking may not change much but his overall numbers would be better

The bottom line is he still wins almost 2/3 of his games. I'll take a QB who who goes 11-5 every year and doesn't have any 4th quarter comebacks over one who goe 8-8 and has 7 4th quarter comebacks.

Gaycandybacon
Member

11 years ago

I'm usually not a fan of Mike Vandermause (his article was linked to in the article referenced in this thread) but he hit this one on the head. Rodgers has had his share of games let go by the defense in the 4th quarter and if even half those games were won his numbers would look better. Of course other QBs are in the same situation so his ranking may not change much but his overall numbers would be better

The bottom line is he still wins almost 2/3 of his games. I'll take a QB who who goes 11-5 every year and doesn't have any 4th quarter comebacks over one who goe 8-8 and has 7 4th quarter comebacks.

Originally Posted by: sschind

Ya and we all know where Tim Tebow is now

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

Ya and we all know where Tim Tebow is now

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon

So you are comparing Aaron Rodgers to Tim Tebow? Yeah that's a good way to let others know the extent of your football knowledge.

gbguy20
Veteran Member

11 years ago

So you are comparing Aaron Rodgers to Tim Tebow? Yeah that's a good way to let others know the extent of your football knowledge.

Originally Posted by: sschind

not sure thats what he was doing there

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sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

not sure thats what he was doing there

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

Yeah, it could have went the other way and I thought of that as well. My apologies if I misunderstood.

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