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pretty good roster steveishere . I would like to keep 24 on offense instead of 23. It makes the team feel a little light if injuries pop up and the offense is what wins games.

For the most part I don't see a lot that needs to be changed.

It wouldn't shock me if they give Walker the nod over Ross.
I might keep Quarless over Bostick.
I am not certain that Lane or Lewis makes the team but if they go with 24 players the only place I see room to add to the offense is another big boy. I suppose the rehab of Sherrod will tell us a lot by what the roster looks like. If he is close to being able to play they could go with 7 linemen. If he is really a year away and there is no chance of him returning this year they will start the season with 8.
The odd man out will be Boyd on the DL. 7 seems like too many players to keep when they line up with 2 down linemen at times. That Neal might be called a OLB helps.
As I mentioned yesterday I went from saying Banjo doesn't make the team to including him as well.
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Look, i'm not a huge fan of Taylor.. We got PLENTY of special teams players on this team. I honestly would not call him a special teams ace. But I think this is one of the players that the coaching staff likes more than I do.

I heard somewhere that Lang can play C, also Barclay has had time there as well. I really like Taylor.. (Might be the most foolish roster move but I bet we can survive one game at C with Lang, and we can snatch Patrick Lewis off the PS if need be after that if EDS goes down, or get a C off the street.)

I'm going out on a limb here, but I think Neal, Palmer, and Mulumba will turn out to be better players playing OLB than Moses, Walden, and Zombo combined. Better speed, size, and natural ablity.

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You made me smile my friend.

I know these lists we put together are the players we would like to see make the team. I guess I am not that smart. When I look at the roster I am trying to get inside Ted's head and figure out What Would Ted (and Mike) Do? I don't know for a fact that they like Taylor better than any other TE. I don't know if he is any better than anyone else on ST. In the past it seems that they have felt that way so my guess is that they still think so. Therefore I left him on my roster. Most likely I am wrong. I have been wrong many times before.

As far as the OL and the C position, have you known Ted to do anything foolish? Probably so but he seems to be one of the most conservative GMs around. I know he has loaded up at a positions in past years and maybe that is foolish but it just sounded funny to me when I read it. I can't see Ted saying they can survive a game if EDS goes down and hope they can fill his position for the next game, maybe with some unknown guy off the street. They will have a definite plan in place whether it be Lang or GVR or someone else.

I do agree with your assessment on the OLB position along with most of your roster by the way.
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11 years ago
In my eyes, a TE as he relates to STs is roughly the same physical profile of a LB. They want players with size and speed that can make plays on STs. To me, Ryan Taylor is so one dimensional that he is pretty much kept for his STs play. If that is the case, then he would have to be considered more of a specialist. We can't afford extra specialists on STs. Jarrett Bush may seem to be in a similar situation, but I think his play as a backup DB has been really sound, making him a great asset at multiple positions. Bush is definitely an ace on STs.

I've got nothing against Ryan Taylor, but if one of our young new LBs can come close to what he does on STs, and is able to contribute more on the field at his regular position, then you have to keep the LB. I will say Taylor made an awesome catch on the sideline v. KC.

Should be interesting to see how it shakes out.
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In my eyes, a TE as he relates to STs is roughly the same physical profile of a LB. They want players with size and speed that can make plays on STs. To me, Ryan Taylor is so one dimensional that he is pretty much kept for his STs play. If that is the case, then he would have to be considered more of a specialist. We can't afford extra specialists on STs. Jarrett Bush may seem to be in a similar situation, but I think his play as a backup DB has been really sound, making him a great asset at multiple positions. Bush is definitely an ace on STs.

I've got nothing against Ryan Taylor, but if one of our young new LBs can come close to what he does on STs, and is able to contribute more on the field at his regular position, then you have to keep the LB. I will say Taylor made an awesome catch on the sideline v. KC.

Should be interesting to see how it shakes out.

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I have no problem if they let Taylor go. But keep in mind they drafted him to play ST. They didn't draft him to take over Finley's position in a year or two. I have to assume Taylor has done exactly what they want him to do. If Ted and Mike don't think they have room for a ST only player, I am ok with that. If they think someone, a LB, can do the same thing that works for me.
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I have no problem if they let Taylor go. But keep in mind they drafted him to play ST. They didn't draft him to take over Finley's position in a year or two. I have to assume Taylor has done exactly what they want him to do. If Ted and Mike don't think they have room for a ST only player, I am ok with that. If they think someone, a LB, can do the same thing that works for me.

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Yeah, it is one of those dilemmas we are faced with every year about this time. I find it fascinating how players who are able to play more than one position can impact a roster. For instance, Neal and Hyde both seem like they could offer at two different positions on D, and Hyde with a history as a PR on STs... Players like that can also make it possible for Ted to keep a more one dimensional player just for STs.

Who knows? I just love trying to figure all this stuff out as a fan of the game and the Packers. Kinda fun.

The one that always gets me is LSs. Why can't we train all of our Cs to LS? That is one hell of a valuable position.
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11 years ago
The thing with Taylor is that the other guys are supposedly better than him on offense but they've never produced much of anything and aren't really great blockers (Quarless, Williams). So really how much better are they than him on offense? Taylor has actually at least produced on ST and I don't see how he couldn't at least match the 5-10 catches DJ Williams is probably going to get. On top of that Taylor comes off to me as a guy with a nasty attitude and the other guys seem kind of passive. That may not be factual but it's the impression I get.
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Yeah, it is one of those dilemmas we are faced with every year about this time. I find it fascinating how players who are able to play more than one position can impact a roster. For instance, Neal and Hyde both seem like they could offer at two different positions on D, and Hyde with a history as a PR on STs... Players like that can also make it possible for Ted to keep a more one dimensional player just for STs.

Who knows? I just love trying to figure all this stuff out as a fan of the game and the Packers. Kinda fun.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I think almost everyone would agree. We have a lot of posts and there are a lot of media renditions that attest to this.

I remember as a younger man having to scribble the preseason roster on a piece of paper then use a pencil and draw a line through the guys I didn't think would make it. I would use a pen when the player was cut. If I was really lucky I would find a newspaper or Packer Report with training camp roster so I wouldn't have to write them all out by hand.

I was thinking I was the only person in the world with such interests. [duh]

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p2w you did a quick edit on your post. The LS is the one position I can't figure out either. For years I grumbled that someone else should do it and that would give us an extra position elsewhere. At one time I wanted them to use it to keep the 3rd string QB. Now that they can keep him on the PS that slot can be used for a 6th WR or another LB. Maybe Boyd. I keep cutting him from the roster but I don't want him to end up on another team.
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11 years ago
The quick edit I'd like to make is Coleman in place of Young.

Wow. Didn't see that one coming.
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11 years ago
Yeah I don't see why they'd even want Coleman on the practice squad let alone 2nd string. I guess they are going to try and grab someone who gets cut.
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