MintBaconDrivel
11 years ago

Sometimes, a few words in a news conference reveal a lot. Green Bay Packers head coach Mike McCarthy did exactly that during Monday's news conference after the first practice of the week.

"We improved as a team from Arizona to St. Louis, but we've got a lot of work to do," said McCarthy. "We left a lot of impact plays on the field."

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DarkaneRules
11 years ago
Sounds pretty obvious to me haha
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buckeyepackfan
11 years ago
Peel away all the layers, and as it always has been, the most important key to victory is winning the turnover battle.

Whether it be a preseason, regular season or postseason game,

Winning the turnover battle is and always has been the one true stat in every era of The NFL.

WIN THE TURNOVER BATTLE, WIN THE GAME!!!!!






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nerdmann
11 years ago

He went into how great teams produce big plays - explosive plays or touchdowns on offense, turnovers on defense, and those are the kind of plays that win championships.



Right. He's into throwing deep downfield, NOT fundamental WCO football, which relies on high percentage passing, ball control and time of possession.

Mike McCarthy's philosophy - a bit of Bill Walsh, a dash of Pro Football Facts and long-held football ideology - wins championships.



A bit of Bill Walsh!? Bill Walsh was all about high percentage plays. When his team made big gains, it was usually due to YAC.

Sounds to me more like Mike is all about Mouse Davis and June Jones.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Run_and_shoot_offense 

The Run & Shoot system uses a formation consisting of one running back and between two and four wide receivers. This system makes extensive use of receiver motion (having a receiver suddenly change position by running left or right, parallel to the line of scrimmage, just before the ball is snapped), both to create advantageous mismatches with the opposing defensive players and to help reveal what coverage the defense is using.


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steveishere
11 years ago

Right. He's into throwing deep downfield, NOT fundamental WCO football, which relies on high percentage passing, ball control and time of possession.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Good, "fundamental WCO" sucks. Glad McCarthy knows what he's doing.
play2win
11 years ago
What we have been in dire need of are a solid defense and a running game. I don't much care whether McCarthy is a chip off of Walsh or Coryell, me thinks the latter, his philosophy must now utilize the run to augment the pass. This can work in beautiful harmony. He's going to have to establish a nice balance, now that he has essentially all the tools offensively.

Defensively, I think we've added some really special pieces to the mix to make us much better. From here it all looks very encouraging. Mike is just going to have to put it all together.

19-0. Add another Lombardi to the trophy room! Bye-bye '72 Dolphins. You have company!
Porforis
11 years ago

Peel away all the layers, and as it always has been, the most important key to victory is winning the turnover battle.

Whether it be a preseason, regular season or postseason game,

Winning the turnover battle is and always has been the one true stat in every era of The NFL.

WIN THE TURNOVER BATTLE, WIN THE GAME!!!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



That, more than anything else, is why Rodgers is invaluable to the Packers. Sure, he throws for a lot of yards and TDs. But he does a tremendous ball protecting the ball. 9 times out of 10, it's the Packers' defense's game to lose.
beast
11 years ago

So did he basically just say we need more big plays? ... that doesn't seem like a story as much as a no duh...

That being said, I also believe consistently good also works... I've seen at times the Patriots (and some other teams) at times don't even seem to try to go for the big plays. When the defense is heavily defending the big play they sometimes just keep going for the first down and moving the ball instead of always going for the big play.

I really liked that Mike McCarthy would go fr a huge surprise play on 3rd and 2... but it got to point that seemed like the norm and other teams game planned for the long ball and it was no long a surpise.


What MIGHT of worked great there is that come back play Peyton Manning always did with his WRs with the Colts. Where they fake deep and then for a come back toward the sideline.
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PackerTraxx
11 years ago
Any good offense or defense is fun to watch...if it's your team...if it's the opposing team...not so much!!!😄
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macbob
11 years ago
This philosophy makes me crazy. I much prefer a ball-control type offense--not necessarily running the ball, but moving the chains; eating up clock; getting the other team's offense out-of-synch by sitting on the bench for an extended period; giving your defense some rest.

With the 'big play' philosophy if you don't make the big play, then the other team gets the ball right back with plenty of time on the clock and your defense gets gassed.

I miss Mike Sherman's offense. He stunk as a GM, but I liked him as a coach. Better than I'm liking McCarthy as a coach.

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