Gaycandybacon
11 years ago
Look at the way he tried to get around the offensive lineman on the one play, he made a nice move, but it was very quick and he tripped over the O-Lineman.

That injury has absolutely nothing to do with stretching...
musccy
11 years ago

Look at the way he tried to get around the offensive lineman on the one play, he made a nice move, but it was very quick and he tripped over the O-Lineman.

That injury has absolutely nothing to do with stretching...

Originally Posted by: Gaycandybacon 



...what you said, and research has shown for a while that pre-exercise stretching is ineffective if not counterproductive. pre-exercise static stretching.  .

DarkaneRules
11 years ago
You stretch more often after the work out. Before hand is odd because you are loosing muscles you may or may not soon be testing out with vigorous exercise.
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Dulak
11 years ago

...what you said, and research has shown for a while that pre-exercise stretching is ineffective if not counterproductive. pre-exercise static stretching.  .

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I don't believe that article. Especially about being counter productive -
I know this subject is about donte jones and his ankle sprain and stretching may not have as much influence in his injury ...

bicep tears, pec tears, hamstring tears, calf tears - strain strains or whatever you call them IMO all have to do with lack of flex-ability and not warming the muscle up.

For example - whom is more to suffer from Achilles heel tears? - its the weekend warriors, or people that dont stretch adequately which IMO is most.

anyways ...



musccy
11 years ago

I don't believe that article. Especially about being counter productive -
I know this subject is about donte jones and his ankle sprain and stretching may not have as much influence in his injury ...

bicep tears, pec tears, hamstring tears, calf tears - strain strains or whatever you call them IMO all have to do with lack of flex-ability and not warming the muscle up.

For example - whom is more to suffer from Achilles heel tears? - its the weekend warriors, or people that dont stretch adequately which IMO is most.

anyways ...



Originally Posted by: Dulak 



Google "pre-exercise stretching" and tell me how many articles come back and say that it is positively correlated with a muscle's ability to effectively "fire" especially in explosive sports, that it enhances flexibility, or that sitting in place and reaching "warms up" a muscle. Anyway, I'm getting carried away on a small ancillary point.

This is football, people put their bodies in awkward positions and big people sprint at and run into other big people. A lot of Packers are hurt right now, it's frustrating, but it is something that happens in this sport. A guy spraining an ankle hardly seems like a point of concern...it'll heal fairly quickly and I really don't think Datone, specifically, is a reflection of inadequacies in the training/conditioning staff.
Zero2Cool
11 years ago
When I workout if I don't stretch first, I don't get the fullest of the workout and end up having pulled muscles. I think its unwise to not properly stretch before a workout.


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DarkaneRules
11 years ago
I think it depends on the activity and muscle groups used too. When I "work out" or "exercise" I rarely stretch before. I stretch after. I see most people at the gym do the same.

You do need warm ups though and I think certain specific stretches are fine for that. I still some players just don't do them correctly and/or cut corners. The whole personal coach thing is intriguing but it would crowd the field and make practice a lot harder.
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

I think it depends on the activity and muscle groups used too. When I "work out" or "exercise" I rarely stretch before. I stretch after. I see most people at the gym do the same.

You do need warm ups though and I think certain specific stretches are fine for that. I still some players just don't do them correctly and/or cut corners. The whole personal coach thing is intriguing but it would crowd the field and make practice a lot harder.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



Crowd the field, or crowd Pepper Burruss?
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nerdmann
11 years ago
They do yoga or external qigong. Even better than just stretching.

EDIT: They SHOULD.
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11 years ago
I warm my muscles up with a quick workout, then stretch, then work out. Seems to work well.
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