Aaron Rodgers is #6? Are you kidding me?· Page 3

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

I think the voting is who was the best player last season. I don't believe the ranking is who would you build a team around.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#22

I think the voting is who was the best player last season. I don't believe the ranking is who would you build a team around.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

It's SUPPOSED to be that way, but if you listen to some of the comments, you hear all kinds of different things. I've heard a lot about how great a player has been in the past or throughout their career, etc. Charles Woodson being on the list this year is a pretty good example of that. From what I can gather, everyone uses their own criteria when voting.

porky88
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: doddpower

I thought it was a projection for this season. 😕

I'd be much more interested in a list created by coaches, scouts, and general managers.

http://www.row12.com/

dhazer
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#24

If I had to take a player for one year I would take Peyton Manning as much as I hate to admit it. Look what he did last year with the Bronco's and watch what he does this year with Welker in the slot. The one thing that would stop him from breaking passing records is the Broncos like to run the ball. Manning is an awesome qb and knows just about every defense you throw at him.

All the Rodgers praise is nice and all and people keep saying they would take him over anyone to build to win a superbowl, please take off the glasses and look. He has won one superbowl and hate to say the defense had alot to do with that. I know people will say I am bashing Rodgers but I am not, I am just looking the stats.

I really didn't have a problem with the list and hopefully we can be more than one and done this year. This team is starting to remind me of the Sherman years after we won the superbowl with Holmgren and after that we were in the playoffs but never did anything.

Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#25

But it's a list of the best players, not the one with the highest positional value.

Or, at least, that's the only reason I can think off that they put it together like this.

If you'd go by who's worth what to a team, you could make a pretty strong case for about 10 quarterbacks to be taken before AP.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

But why then was Revis as high as he was?

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: dhazer

Not sure I get your argument. You gush about Peyton and then say that Rodgers only has 1 Superbowl. Peyton only has 1 Superbowl as well and had alot more chances.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#27

Not sure I get your argument. You gush about Peyton and then say that Rodgers only has 1 Superbowl. Peyton only has 1 Superbowl as well and had alot more chances.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

Heh, Hazer's post aren't intended to be logical or make sense. They just are. After all, after hitting "reply," he has to hit SOME combination of buttons on the keyboard, right? He can't just stare at it (although he probably does that, too).

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: dhazer

What did peyton win his 2nd superbowl last year or something?

mi_keys
Senior Member

11 years ago

#29

Not sure I get your argument. You gush about Peyton and then say that Rodgers only has 1 Superbowl. Peyton only has 1 Superbowl as well and had alot more chances.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

And if he responds, "oh, but the Colts defenses always sucked!" the one time Peyton one a Super Bowl his defense gave up 8, 6, 34* and 17* points in the playoffs. In the AFC Championship game against the Pats, one of those touchdowns was a pick 6 and another came off a drive starting on the Colts' 30 following a long kickoff return. In the Super Bowl, one of those touchdowns was a Devin Hester kick return. You take those two off the board that the defense had nothing to do with and they averaged giving up 12.75 points a game. They may have sucked that year but it came together at the right time.

Dex will love this: you win as a team, you lose as a team. Basing your entire argument about one QB or another on the number of Super Bowls they've won is absolute bollocks.

And now I can't believe I wasted my time validating his argument, which is likely just a windup, with a rebuttal.

Born and bred a cheesehead

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

#30

What did peyton win his 2nd superbowl last year or something?

Originally Posted by: steveishere

dhazer thinks Peyton Manning plays for the Detroit Lions.

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