Offseason Look at Injured Players· Page 2

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

FWIW, Dez Moses just left minicamp practice with ice on his lower right leg per Jason Wilde tweet.

Also, Starks is fumbling a lot and Crosby and Tavecchio look to be battling head to head in their kicking competition.

https://twitter.com/jasonjwilde

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#12

I have listened to people (Not necessarily nerdmann) complain that coaches and GM don't tell the fans everything they know about the players and their injuries and do they all get along in the showers or not for years. Not one organization has opened up more because of these complaints. Those coaches who seem to want to be the buddy of the fan don't seem to last very long in this league.Perhaps it is just a coincidence.

As for the OTAs and mini camps and the like, I don't really pay a whole lot of attention to them. They don't REALLY count. Year after year after year we see one player getting more snaps and assume (At least some people do) that he is higher up the depth chart only to see that same player released before the final cuts are made. A great run or catch or pretend tackle in May, June, July and August does not show up on the NFL record books. I certainly like to see a player making adjustments to his new team or position but until he faces first team players from another team it is almost impossible to assume what he does in the spring or summer will actually transfer into something meaningful in the fall and winter.

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#13

This team should definitely put themselves at a competitive disadvantage during the season by fully disclosing injuries for no reason other than to make some fans happy. That's how a winning organization would run and not these crap teams the Packers have been putting out there.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#14

Originally Posted by: steveishere

The RULES in place are not there to make fans happy. They exist to keep organized crime away from the NFL.

If gangsters have inside knowledge of injuries, that knowledge can be used to increase gambling revenue. The injury reporting rules are meant to prevent this.

Hence, when lying on injury reports during the season, teams are benefiting organized crime.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#15

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Gambling isn't organized crime. Either way I have absolutely no recollection of this team receiving any warnings or investigations in regards to their injury reporting. So apparently according to the rules what they do is completely fine. Hence doing anything further is putting themselves at a competitive disadvantage for no reason other to make you feel better for knowing more about somebody's injury (why that should even make you feel better I have no idea). If a player is out I personally do not give two shits why he is out because it doesn't matter. The guy isn't going to be playing whether I know if he has tendonitis or a severed tendon or a hand injury it simply doesn't matter if I know.

I doubt you care that much about organized crime anyways that it makes you want to vomit if they don't tell you if a guy strained his calf during OTAs. You are just whining because they aren't giving you what you want. LOL Organized crime is going to go nuts over the mysterious Dezman Moses OTA injury rofl give me a F-ing break.

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#16

I agree with your assessment above Steve but I thought the NFL gave the Packers a somewhat mild reprimand about 3-4 years ago when it came to listing injured players on the weekly reports and Mike got a little miffed and then put everyone down even guys who didn't miss any practices and still played that weeks game.

Rather derisively Mike said he wasn't a doctor and he couldn't tell if a minor ache or pain was going to keep a player out of the game.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

11 years ago

#17

No, players are required to sign a waiver to disclose health information.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Joke killer.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

11 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

It is not to keep organized crime out. It is to make it easier for the handicappers.

Because messing with the honest gambling industry is the worst thing a player or team can do in any sport. Which is why they only lifetime ban players for a first offense if it is gambling. You can play on roids for 300 games and get a short suspension. But throw one game to mess with the gamblers and you are done forever. Even if you are only peripherally involved.

Because gambling is important. Careers built on cheating are not.

I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.

steveishere
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#19

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

Nerdmann apparently cares so much about the integrity of the gambling industry that it makes him physically ill to see NFL teams abuse that system.

nerdmann
Premier Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

The former commish in the 50s set up the rules to keep organized crime away from the game iirc.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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