MintBaconDrivel
12 years ago

Chris Ault isn't exactly an every day household name when it comes to the NFL. Lately, however, he's about as popular as all of this read-option buzz that's suddenly taken the league by storm. Ault is known to be the innovator behind college football's "pistol' offense which involves much read-option play from the quaterback and [...]

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texaspackerbacker
12 years ago
Keep those updates coming, Mintbacondrivel.

I'm on record as wishing the Packres would go to the old split backs formation with Lacy AND Franklin/Harris, but assuming that ain't gonna happen, the pistol is a decent thing to consider. It wouldn't be the same as the Niners, as Rodgers can't quite run like Kaepernick, and we certainly wouldn't want him to. However, IMO, the main benefit of the pistol is to give a team with a less than dominant O Line an edge. Thus, I'd like to see some use of it.


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nerdmann
12 years ago

Keep those updates coming, Mintbacondrivel.

I'm on record as wishing the Packres would go to the old split backs formation with Lacy AND Franklin/Harris, but assuming that ain't gonna happen, the pistol is a decent thing to consider. It wouldn't be the same as the Niners, as Rodgers can't quite run like Kaepernick, and we certainly wouldn't want him to. However, IMO, the main benefit of the pistol is to give a team with a less than dominant O Line an edge. Thus, I'd like to see some use of it.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Why can't Rodgers run like Kaepernick? He's been our leading rusher more than once. And anyway that's what Graham Harrell is for.
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texaspackerbacker
12 years ago

Why can't Rodgers run like Kaepernick? He's been our leading rusher more than once. And anyway that's what Graham Harrell is for.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



HAHAHAHAHAHA a big yeah right to that. I'm sure he could if something big and bad enough was chasing him, but the problem is, what if that big bad thing catches him? Oh yeah, I forgot, the Graham Harrell era hahahaha.


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nerdmann
12 years ago

HAHAHAHAHAHA a big yeah right to that. I'm sure he could if something big and bad enough was chasing him, but the problem is, what if that big bad thing catches him? Oh yeah, I forgot, the Graham Harrell era hahahaha.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Graham Harrell is known as a scrambler, who operates from the shotgun.

Actually, they could also go wildcat with Cobb. I just don't see them doing any of this, because their emphasis is on throwing deep, not wasting precious clock running with the ball.
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texaspackerbacker
12 years ago
My point was that you can use the pistol differently than the Niners and other teams use it - specifically to avoid a pass rush, much like the shotgun, but still keeping the prospect of a straight I formation type handoff available. I don't want Rodgers risking injury by running around like Kaepernick; I'm also not thrilled with taking him off the field by using the wildcat. I have no problem with the long passing game even with the probable much enhanced RB situation. I just think the pistol might be a good way to give Rodgers at better look at the field while still keeping Lacy/Franklin/Harris as a threat.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

My point was that you can use the pistol differently than the Niners and other teams use it - specifically to avoid a pass rush, much like the shotgun, but still keeping the prospect of a straight I formation type handoff available. I don't want Rodgers risking injury by running around like Kaepernick; I'm also not thrilled with taking him off the field by using the wildcat. I have no problem with the long passing game even with the probable much enhanced RB situation. I just think the pistol might be a good way to give Rodgers at better look at the field while still keeping Lacy/Franklin/Harris as a threat.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



I believe it is not only in the best interest of the Packers as a team but ALSO in the best interest of those who are perversely obsessed with breaking Favre's records, to ADHERE TO FUNDAMENTALS.

Call me crazy.
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kmeyer
12 years ago
I have no doubt Rodgers could do this very successfully, but it would be a bad idea. The athleticsim difference is not much, but I want Rodgers protected more. It only takes one bad hit to derail a career.

We have been so blessed to get 2 hof type qb's back to back. Farve played 18 years. If Rodgers does the same, thats 36 years and two guys. I know I am getting way ahead of myself, but over the course of that time, the rest of the division will go through over a hundred all together:)


Edit: I just remembered, Farve did not play all 18 in GB, but still the point stands.
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Pack93z
12 years ago
To the OP... yes we can use the pistol formation but no we will not be running out of it.

Not with Rodgers at the helm.. the run option from the QB will be utilized until a high dollar QB goes down for the season. RGIII's injury is going to affect him.. and soon another.. where as they will use it less.

It is the primary reason the option isn't part of the pro game for the last couple decades.. because teams overvalue a QB and overpay them (glory boys), teams don't want to expose them to additional hits.

It would be foolish to deploy this with Rodgers.. IMO.

What the hell is wrong with just manning up about the game, establishing a traditional running game and then actioning off it? It is not hard and it has been effective for decades.. we just lack the stones to do it consistently. Why expose an elite passer to hits in option?

The run option from the QB will pass.. the contract market will dictate it out of the game.
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