DakotaT
12 years ago
Hell to the no, should we sign Crybaby Cullen. Fuckr could have signed in Green Bay for more than he got in Philly but he had his feelers hurt. Moving on...
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buckeyepackfan
12 years ago
All i know is that when Jenkins was playing for The Packers, the defense was better.

Can't hurt to talk with his agent, see if the interest on his end is real.

No reason not to explore every option during this time of the season.


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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

All i know is that when Jenkins was playing for The Packers, the defense was better.

Can't hurt to talk with his agent, see if the interest on his end is real.

No reason not to explore every option during this time of the season.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



All I know is when Cullen Jenkins was playing for the Packers, so was Nick Collins.
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PackFanWithTwins
12 years ago
Would have no problem bringing Cullen back, as long as the price is right. He looks to still have some gas in the tank, He was still able to move and has been pretty healthy in Philly. Much like I thought with Cedric Benson about this time last year. Assuming he is affordable, there isn't a great deal of downside. Bring him in for competition, and also to help develop Worthy, Neil and Daniels. I am sure there are a few things he would be able to teach.
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JustinAVA182
12 years ago




The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports the Packers have expressed interest in free agent DL Ricky Jean-Francois.
Jean-Francois, 26, has started just five games since entering the league in 2009, but he was the top backup for the Niners at all three defensive line spots last year. Green Bay would likely give him a chance to start at right end with Jerel Worthy's (knee) season in doubt. San Francisco is expected to let Jean-Francois test the market, even though they would like to re-sign the run-stuffer.

Maybe they wont even try talking to Jenkins.
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wpr
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12 years ago

Maybe they wont even try talking to Jenkins.

Originally Posted by: JustinAVA182 



this sounds like a better option.
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Pack93z
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12 years ago
I think at the right contract number and expectations from Jenkins (IE he is understanding that he will be more of a role player in a rotation), there is value in looking at him.

Jenkins of two years ago might not be the same Jenkins of today.. while I think his departure hurt us greatly last season.. we have added talent at the spot that needs to play. Hence.. as part of a rotation I can see it working.. but if he wants the bulk of the snaps.. not so much.
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Yerko
12 years ago
Adding Jenkins wouldn't stunt the growth of Worthy because Worthy will not be playing next season.
Adding Jenkins wouldn't stunt the growth of Daniels because Daniels is also a rotational player and mostly plays at the NT position.

Aside from the Ricky Jean-Francois interest, Jenkins would be one of the better things to happen to the defense. He can still play and will most likely come in at a cheaper price. The d-line is where it begins and adding Jenkins back into the mix would help this group A LOT.

If the Packers were to sign Jean-Francois, that would be a much better option. Jenkins would be a much better option than Canty.

1. Jean-Francois
2. Jenkins
3. Canty

Hell, sign both Jean-Francois and Jenkins. 😆

Raji
Pickett
Jenkins
Jean-Francois
Neal
Daniels
Wilson

Worthy on PUP to IR next season.

Clearly, signing them both isn't realistic. I think the Packers will go 1st round defensive line anyways(DT).
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Pack93z
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12 years ago

Adding Jenkins wouldn't stunt the growth of Worthy because Worthy will not be playing next season.

Originally Posted by: Yerko 



Why.. because a media writer has said so?

The timeline would suggest a guy that will miss much of the offseason workouts and more than likely will be on the PUP.. cut color me in the camp of thinking the Worthy at worst misses a couple games to half the season over not playing at all next season. Just because McGinn speculated that his recovery may follow a Quarless more than a Tauscher isn't going to pencil me into the thought of he isn't going to play at all. Tauscher has surgery Jan 19 and returned in mid October for example... older player at that time. It certainly isn't a certain, but I think there is more evidence to a mid year return than not playing at all. Just my opinion.

Now.. for the bigger picture on adding Jenkins.. I am not opposed to it.. but as long as he understands it will be part of a rotation. Personally.. I think Jenkins fits better in a 3-4 than a 4-3 so I think it makes sense to look at it. But it has to be the right contract number and his personal expectations.. remember this is the same guy that thought the Packers didn't show him enough respect in his last contract cycle with the Packers. So it isn't like this is a guy that doesn't have a bit of ego to him.
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Pack93z
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12 years ago
So I went to find McGinn's piece that has shaded Worthy as out for next season.. he even contradicts himself within the article.. lineman generally take longer, yet the examples cited say otherwise. :)

Personally, I think an ACL injury for a lineman with the limited range of motion needed might be a more condensed timeline than a skill player where cutting at full speed tests the range of motion and stress of the ligament over a lineman where there might be more torque on the joint but by nature is less dynamic in terms of range of motion needed.

Basically I think it is a poorly researched piece by McGinn with using Harrell at a centerpiece. Also failing to account for the severity of the Quarless injury, where both the MCL and PCL were torn severely.

Green Bay  - Defensive end Jerel Worthy has undergone reconstructive knee surgery and will have to overcome long odds to play for the Green Bay Packers in the 2013 season.

Worthy, the team's second-round draft choice last year from Michigan State, suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament Dec. 30 in Minnesota and had surgery on Jan. 15.

The operation was performed by well-known surgeon James Andrews at the Andrews Institute in Pensacola, Fla., according to a source.

Worthy, 22, injured his left knee on the fifth-to-last play of the regular season. He collapsed on a pass rush after barely being touched by tackle Phil Loadholt.

Two days before his surgery, Worthy described the injury as just a severe bruise.

Worthy's hopes to play next season should be helped by the fact that he has never suffered a major injury before. But generally, it takes longer for a 300-pound lineman to come back from an ACL than a smaller player.

The last defensive lineman in Green Bay to blow out his ACL was oft-injured Justin Harrell. After his surgery in September 2010, he never played in the NFL again.

Linebacker Aaron Kampman underwent ACL surgery in December 2009 and then was ready to play for Jacksonville at the start of the '10 season.

Tackle Mark Tauscher underwent surgery Jan. 15, 2009, to repair the same ACL that he had torn in 2002. He was back on the 53-man roster in mid-October that year.

A year ago, tight end Andrew Quarless underwent ACL surgery Jan. 9 and never made it back onto the roster.

Worthy ranked fourth among the Packers' six defensive linemen in pressures per snap and sixth in tackles per snap. In 443 snaps, the third highest total on the unit, he had six pressures and 23 tackles.


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