Announcement NEED YOUR TESTING HELP! Please bounce around PackerPeople.com using your same PackersHome login/password and let me know if it's good, bad, needs fixed, etc ... I wanna get some decent testing before going live.
RaiderPride
12 years ago
Interesting...

Reggie was paying for hits in 96.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/18/in-1996-nfl-was-ok-with-reggie-white-paying-teammates-for-hits/ 
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
mi_keys
12 years ago
There have been plenty of stories that have come out from former players that they had incentive programs for bit hits. The distinction from the beginning has been pay for hit vs. pay for injury.
Born and bred a cheesehead
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
12 years ago

Interesting...

Reggie was paying for hits in 96.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/18/in-1996-nfl-was-ok-with-reggie-white-paying-teammates-for-hits/ 

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



yeah it was talked about a lot back then. Well talked about some. It wasn't considered much of an issue as long as it wasn't the "hit list" and cheap shots. Reggie assured everyone it was not.
UserPostedImage
PackFanWithTwins
12 years ago

There have been plenty of stories that have come out from former players that they had incentive programs for bit hits. The distinction from the beginning has been pay for hit vs. pay for injury.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



The problem with the whole "bountygate" is that the Paying to Injure was and still is blown out of proportion. They all played up the Williams speech for the 49ers game, where he talks about putting a hit on and testing Crabtree's (i believe) ACL. They want us to believe that he meant that, that he wanted somebody to go an intentionally hit and take out his ACL, yet they completely ignore just a few seconds before that when he was saying to "We have to kill Frank Gore's head". Now none of them believe that Williams actually wanted somebody to go out and Kill gore. I highly doubt that part of the speech was meant figurative and the other part literal.

Vilma's I put 10K on Favre. Don't know for certain, but I am pretty positive, that Vilma didn't show up at that defensive meeting with a check or 10K in cash to throw in. It was nothing but a symbolic statement. It know different than somebody saying. I'll bet my house, or I'll bet my soul.

The NFL had rules about no bounties, yet all teams did. Even our Packers, and the SOP had been. If it comes out and the NFL looks at it, the say. We addressed this issue and took care of it internal and it won't happen again. At which point the players go back to doing it, just making sure they hide it better. That is what the Saints did. They were told to stop, they said, OK and when the NFL left they went back to it again.

Saints were just used as an example so the NFL can make it look like they actually care about players.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
nerdmann
12 years ago
IMHO: There is a line and the Saints crossed it.

There is more emphasis on this sort of thing now with the concussion issue coming to the fore.

The NFL has to cover it's own ass, on paper at least, if not in actuality as far as genuinely protecting its players.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
12 years ago
NFL knew about Reggie White rewarding players for big hits. They didn't say it had to stop.
NFL believed Saints were paying for big hits and injuries and were told to stop. They didn't stop.


That's the difference. If the Saints stopped in 2010, they probably wouldn't have had as severe a punishment. The punishment I feel from what I've read and heard is essentially predicated on the Saints lying that anything of the sort existed and continued to do so after the NFL told them to stop.
UserPostedImage
nerdmann
12 years ago

NFL knew about Reggie White rewarding players for big hits. They didn't say it had to stop.
NFL believed Saints were paying for big hits and injuries and were told to stop. They didn't stop.


That's the difference. If the Saints stopped in 2010, they probably wouldn't have had as severe a punishment. The punishment I feel from what I've read and heard is essentially predicated on the Saints lying that anything of the sort existed and continued to do so after the NFL told them to stop.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



As with presidents, so with life.

It's not the crime, it's the cover up!
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackFanWithTwins
12 years ago

NFL knew about Reggie White rewarding players for big hits. They didn't say it had to stop.
NFL believed Saints were paying for big hits and injuries and were told to stop. They didn't stop.


That's the difference. If the Saints stopped in 2010, they probably wouldn't have had as severe a punishment. The punishment I feel from what I've read and heard is essentially predicated on the Saints lying that anything of the sort existed and continued to do so after the NFL told them to stop.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Thing is, it was normal for teams caught to lie to the nfl and say they took care of it, and continue to do it only quietly. Like the Packers did in 07'. Then it was hold Peterson to <100. And Peterson actually did get hurt by tackle from Harris. No intent. I'be gone through all the hits against Favre, only one would I even call questionable, the one where Favre handed off to Harvin on the end around and turned like he had faked it and got popped by the DE he ran into.

There was no intent to injure, it was nothing but talk, and the NFL doesn't really even believe their was intent. they just want the PR. The most hits against favre were from Sharper. Him and Favre are friend, as are most NFL players. It was just talk.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
beast
12 years ago

I find it interesting that the NFLPA is saying, because they allowed it back then and having change their rules, they shouldn't have a problem with it now ...


Simple answer to it...

Back then, you guys weren't suing us for injuries...



Heck if players weren't suing for injuries they might still allow it (if it wasn't talked about... because they still wouldn't of liked it talked about)
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (11h) : Soft hope plan is having fantasy football weekly on-site that i build. cannot do that with this setup.
Zero2Cool (11h) : It's older technology, resource hog, cannot be upgraded/changed. That's to start.
packerfanoutwest (12h) : Ok, but what is wrong with this site?
Zero2Cool (13h) : check out packerpeople.com
Mucky Tundra (25-Aug) : Oh crap I missed that! I thought it was a 2026 pick
Zero2Cool (25-Aug) : It wasn't even next year pick, it's two years away. old dog food value
Mucky Tundra (25-Aug) : Yep! Everytime a team trades with Howie that team is the loser (so says the media)
Zero2Cool (25-Aug) : We are hosed.
Mucky Tundra (25-Aug) : Per Schefter, GB is sending a 6th rounder for OT Darian Kennard
Zero2Cool (24-Aug) : Finally got new site to keep folks logged in. New tech is pain sometimes
dfosterf (23-Aug) : Taylor Elgersma is going to be very hard to hide.
Mucky Tundra (23-Aug) : Matthew Golden=DAWG (so load the wagons!!) !!!!!
dfosterf (18-Aug) : We do have good depth at running back imo. Still so frustrating. Bitching about it is a futile excercise, which I plan to do anyway.
Mucky Tundra (17-Aug) : Whoops, I thought Zero was saying it was a surprise the Brewers lost and not Lloyd being hurt
Mucky Tundra (17-Aug) : Not a surprise; inevitable
Zero2Cool (17-Aug) : Brewers streak ends at 14
Zero2Cool (17-Aug) : SURPRISE
Mucky Tundra (17-Aug) : @mattschneidman Matt LaFleur on MarShawn Lloyd: “He’s gonna miss some time.”
Mucky Tundra (16-Aug) : CLIFFORD WITH THE TD WITH UNDER 2 TO GO!!!!!
Zero2Cool (16-Aug) : 90 MINUTES UNTIL FAKE KICKOFF!!
Martha Careful (16-Aug) : I think Ruven is a bot, but regardless should be stricken from the site.
Zero2Cool (14-Aug) : Packers RB Josh Jacobs ranked No. 33 in NFL 'Top 100'
dfosterf (13-Aug) : The LVN Musgrave collision- Andy Herman said Musgrave seemed to be the one most impacted injury-wise
dfosterf (13-Aug) : a lower back injury
dfosterf (13-Aug) : Doubs says he's "fine" after injury scare. Some reported it as z
Mucky Tundra (13-Aug) : With LVN that is; need to see what happens in the next practice
Mucky Tundra (13-Aug) : beast, reading about what happened, it sounded like one of those "two guys collide and are moving slow afterwards" type of deals
beast (12-Aug) : I believe Musgrave has been injured every single season since at least a Sophomore in highschool
packerfanoutwest (12-Aug) : Matt LaFleur: “Highly unlikely” Jordan Love plays more this preseason
dfosterf (12-Aug) : Doubs, Savion Williams, LVN, Musgrave all banged up to one degree or another, missing one here I forget
Zero2Cool (12-Aug) : RB Tyrion Davis-Price is signing with the Green Bay Packers.
Zero2Cool (12-Aug) : zero help, dominated. preseason
beast (12-Aug) : QB Jordan Love has surgery
beast (12-Aug) : Martha said Morgan had a lot of help, I didn't watch the OL so I can't say.
Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Packers LT Jordan Morgan did not allow a single pressure across 23 pass-blocking snaps vs. Jets last night, per PFF
Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : With buckeye and the reasonable couple, we're currently sitting at 10
buckeyepackfan (10-Aug) : Just posted to re-up on our FFL.
Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : If healthy after, then thats all I care. Well, no drops would be nice
wpr (10-Aug) : I made it through the 1st Q.
dfosterf (10-Aug) : Just gotta figure out how.
dfosterf (10-Aug) : Could have been a worse start, so there is that.
beast (10-Aug) : Yeah, someone tell the Packers football season has started, seems like they weren't ready for it
Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : Sooooooo many penalties
Mucky Tundra (10-Aug) : It may only be preseason, but this game is a trip to the dentist
Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Packers do bad -- FREAK OUT!!!!!!
Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Packers do good -- eh only preseason
dfosterf (10-Aug) : Well that half was fun
Zero2Cool (10-Aug) : Great, zayne is down
Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : 13 minutes away from kickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkoffff
Zero2Cool (9-Aug) : Had Celebration of Life for my uncle up north. wicked rain hope it dont come south
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
29m / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

1h / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

2h / Fantasy Sports Talk / porky88

25-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

24-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

24-Aug / Around The NFL / beast

23-Aug / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

22-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

21-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

20-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

19-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

18-Aug / Around The NFL / isaiah

18-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

17-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

17-Aug / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.