Zero2Cool
12 years ago
Last season, Packers were dead last in passing defense. This year, they are in first place after three games!! POP THE CHAMPAGNE!!
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12 years ago

Last season, Packers were dead last in passing defense. This year, they are in first place after three games!! POP THE CHAMPAGNE!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Alex Smith
Jay Cutler plus awful OLine.
Russell Wilson

Well, it's definitely improved as a unit. But I'm not quite ready to pop champagne yet. Sorry.

Fortunately, though, once the offense gets its act in gear, there isn't that much improvement needed. :)

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gbguy20
12 years ago
we'll see where they rank after playing brees.
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RaiderPride
12 years ago
THREE games is a reasonable gauge for a 16 game season.

Factor in jumping up 31 spots... That is phenomenal.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

Alex Smith
Jay Cutler plus awful OLine.
Russell Wilson

Well, it's definitely improved as a unit. But I'm not quite ready to pop champagne yet. Sorry.

Fortunately, though, once the offense gets its act in gear, there isn't that much improvement needed. :)

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Alex Smith played well, he also has weapons like Randy Moss, Micheal Crabtree, Vernon Davis and Frank Gore. Those guys are no slouches.

Cutler was in the pro bowl, was he not?

This defense is for real. They may not be #1 across the board, but right now I'm more worried about the offense. Particularly in short yardage situations.
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Porforis
12 years ago

THREE games is a reasonable gauge for a 16 game season.

Factor in jumping up 31 spots... That is phenomenal.

Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



I don't agree. By that logic, the Packers are a 5-11 or 6-10 team. I've always said that after 4 games you start getting the first indications of who the team really is, and by week 8 you have a pretty good idea of what to expect. Game 1 was against a very good team but it was the first game of the season, and we lost due to problems on offense and defense. Game 2 was against the Bears, the offense was mediocre but the defense was killer. The bears O line sucks and Cutler sucks, though. Game 3, the offense still fizzled but the defense played well, however the seahawks have a very good defense and a poor offense.

The saints are kind of a mystery too, if we shut them down on defense, is it because we're really that improved or is it because the Saints have been struggling and are continuing to struggle? If the offense plays well, is it because the offense is good or because the Saints D sucks?
nerdmann
12 years ago

I don't agree. By that logic, the Packers are a 5-11 or 6-10 team. I've always said that after 4 games you start getting the first indications of who the team really is, and by week 8 you have a pretty good idea of what to expect. Game 1 was against a very good team but it was the first game of the season, and we lost due to problems on offense and defense. Game 2 was against the Bears, the offense was mediocre but the defense was killer. The bears O line sucks and Cutler sucks, though. Game 3, the offense still fizzled but the defense played well, however the seahawks have a very good defense and a poor offense.

The saints are kind of a mystery too, if we shut them down on defense, is it because we're really that improved or is it because the Saints have been struggling and are continuing to struggle? If the offense plays well, is it because the offense is good or because the Saints D sucks?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



You're counting this last game as a loss.
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Porforis
12 years ago

You're counting this last game as a loss.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yes I am, and even if I don't I really don't think the Packers win more than half of their "Do nothing on offense for 80% of the game, defense needs to hold up the team" games. Packers got throttled once, throttled someone once, and eeked out a bloody non-victory on the final play. Call it 1.5-1.5 if you want, I don't think any of us would agree we're a 8-8 team either. But the Packers did not play well enough to definitively win that game, considering the final score. Overcame adversity, sure. Had a solid showing on defense and special teams, sure.
nerdmann
12 years ago

Yes I am, and even if I don't I really don't think the Packers win more than half of their "Do nothing on offense for 80% of the game, defense needs to hold up the team" games. Packers got throttled once, throttled someone once, and eeked out a bloody non-victory on the final play. Call it 1.5-1.5 if you want, I don't think any of us would agree we're a 8-8 team either. But the Packers did not play well enough to definitively win that game, considering the final score. Overcame adversity, sure. Had a solid showing on defense and special teams, sure.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



That's their M.O.
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PackerTraxx
12 years ago
IMO at this point it is a large ray of hope. The teams we played are questionable but I don't think last years D would have done as well. Brees should be a little stiffer test and add to the evaluation. My mantra this year is for the D to have definite improvement each week. I think this D has the potential to be very good the last half of the year and the playoffs.
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