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beast
12 years ago

if Ted Thompson wanted MJD he could have simply drafted him.

Originally Posted by: dhpackr 



He took Hawk and Jennings before MJD ...

Can we trade Hawk for MJD? ...

then maybe trade MJD for a DL pass rusher in a year?
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Since69
12 years ago
Oh, look. A speculative thread about the Packers possibly acquiring MJD... Ten replies in 20 minutes... not bad. Just, uh, you know, go ahead and keep ignoring the eerily similar thread I started a full day ago... that's cool.

As for me, I'd love MJD here. Especially in December. I'd give a player and a pick. Maybe even a high pick. And I'm sure Jax could use some help at receiver...
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Oh, look. A speculative thread about the Packers possibly acquiring MJD... Ten replies in 20 minutes... not bad. Just, uh, you know, go ahead and keep ignoring the eerily similar thread I started a full day ago... that's cool.

As for me, I'd love MJD here. Especially in December. I'd give a player and a pick. Maybe even a high pick. And I'm sure Jax could use some help at receiver...

Originally Posted by: Since69 



lmao😂
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Since69
12 years ago

lmao😂

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



It was more sarcastic than snarky, but thanks for the merge...
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macbob
12 years ago
What Zombie said. CB (as long as he holds onto the ball) should provide us sufficient running threat to make our play action passes effective.

Nothing. Don't want him.

He'll take plays away from 🇦🇷 and take $$$ away from our D, which already is bad.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



nyrpack
12 years ago
i will take my chances with benson, it doesnt cost anything !!
jimmy b.
hardrocker950
12 years ago

I would give up nothing. He's a RB. He's disposable in today's NFL. Teams don't run the ball to win games. They run the ball to slow the pass rush because you win by throwing the ball. The top 5 rushing teams last year were Broncos, Texans, Panthers, Vikings, and Eagles. The worst rushing team last year was the Super Bowl Champion Giants. This is not the 1970's. Rushing yards is just not that critical.

I told a Bear fan last winter that I couldn't wait till they paid big money to Forte. Big money RB's are a great way to screw up your Cap for years.

I would add Larry Fitzgerald to your list of players I might give up more than a First for.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



I would rather pass on this idea too. If CB can stay healthy and produce some threat in the running game, he is doing exactly what he is on the team for. No reason to spend insane amounts of cash for a player we don't need. Also consider that this OL is built around the passing game and short runs, I don't know how effectively they could utilize a RB of that type - not bashing them for it, just doesn't seem to fit this offense IMO.

Those funds can be spent in places that we need upgrades - such as quality pass rushers. Aside from Clay, the rest are not consistent enough. Also consider that we have guys like GJ that are nearing the end of their contract - I would rather keep players like him around.
RainX
12 years ago
MJD is easily worth a first rounder, but for what the Packers do on offense, backs like Benson, Green, and Saine will be more than adequate for the running game. All we need is someone who can keep opposing defenses honest, and Benson has shown he can be a workhorse back in that regard.

Packers have some big contracts coming up with Jennings, Rodgers, Raji, and Matthews nearing the end of their respective deals. We may need that first round pick to fill some holes because potentially, we may not be able to keep everybody. That doesn't even include guys like Saturday and Woodson who may not have a whole lot left in the tank in the next season or two. Receiver is really the only position imo right now, say a veteran like Driver retired, that the group wouldn't skip a beat as far as production. Can't say the same about the offensive line or secondary right now.

MJD would be a great pick up under the right circumstances, but Packers have bigger needs right now with their upcoming draft picks to give up a first rounder for a disgruntled RB who feels he's not getting paid enough.
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Pack93z
12 years ago
It would not be about the cost of picks to acquire MJD or another top flight back at this point.. it would be all about cap management in the short and long term.

First.. we would not have the cap space short term to pay the man without backloading the contract.

Second.. it would only further cloud the juggling act that will be keeping talent beyond this season. If you are going to cough up a high pick or a package of picks.. you better keep him long term.

And he doesn't want to play out his contract short term.



I wish the Packers would draft a back almost every year.. roll the dice and use them up in the first couple of seasons, then allow them to walk when the contract years hit and they have taken a load of hits already. If you hit on a back and he is a blue chipper.. then maybe pay the man. Otherwise, much like Wolf and backup QB's.. keep cycling the talent through.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
porky88
12 years ago

It would not be about the cost of picks to acquire MJD or another top flight back at this point.. it would be all about cap management in the short and long term.

First.. we would not have the cap space short term to pay the man without backloading the contract.

Second.. it would only further cloud the juggling act that will be keeping talent beyond this season. If you are going to cough up a high pick or a package of picks.. you better keep him long term.

And he doesn't want to play out his contract short term.



I wish the Packers would draft a back almost every year.. roll the dice and use them up in the first couple of seasons, then allow them to walk when the contract years hit and they have taken a load of hits already. If you hit on a back and he is a blue chipper.. then maybe pay the man. Otherwise, much like Wolf and backup QB's.. keep cycling the talent through.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 


This is a great point. I overlooked the contract demand of MJD. He's worth a first rounder, but only if you can fit his contract into the grand scheme of things. For example, I much rather have Greg Jennings long-term than MJD.

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beast (3h) : I was rooting for the Bears to win and hurt their draft pick status
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TheKanataThrilla (3h) : That was terrible.
TheKanataThrilla (3h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.
beast (4h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent
beast (4h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime
beast (4h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing
Zero2Cool (5h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is
Zero2Cool (5h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true
beast (6h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management
wpr (8h) : Watching bares fans melt down over how putrid their team is, so enjoyable. It's the gift that keeps on giving.
Mucky Tundra (15h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago
beast (16h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years
Zero2Cool (22h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.
packerfanoutwest (23h) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it
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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
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