Zero2Cool
12 years ago
Two people have publicly said they feel the NFL is aiming to remove kick-offs. Patriots coach Bill Belichick and Giants co-owner John Mara.

I think I'd lose a lot of interest in the NFL if they changed the game this dramatically.
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12 years ago
I'd be really pissed. I hope if they remove kickoffs, ratings plummet.
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12 years ago

I'd be really pissed. I hope if they remove kickoffs, ratings plummet.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



exactly. of course you and I will still watch.
It disgusts me that the people in charge of professional sports (The Owners) often forget that the do not really own the game itself. They are merely caretakers. They need to do as little harm as possible to the game that they have been entrusted with.

Yes I understand it is in the name of player safety but I don't by it. A big part of the game is special teams. KO return men, gunners and so on. No kickoffs you don't need to look for and pay extra for those players. A 5th WR without kickoff duties would make less than a 3-4 WR who is your featured kick returner. The same for a 5th or 6th CB. He would not make as much as the gunner who is a standout at his job. Sure it is not a lot of money but it adds up.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
wpr, I thought that initially myself, that I'd still watch. I'm confident I wouldn't. I've grown to dislike quite a bit about the NFL over the last couple years, especially since the lockout. I think the kickoff to a game is some what climatic. Some college teams fans get louder as they see the kicker approaching the ball until the ball is kicked.

The game of NFL football is becoming more like the Madden video game. Benefits to offense while defense is limited in their abilities.

If the NFL abolishes the kickoff, for me personally it would come off as a sign of arrogance in them thinking they can do whatever they want and people will still watch. When does it end? When do fans say enough is enough? They've even changed overtime so it is no longer sudden death removing some of the 'edge of your seat' anxiety that created much excitement.

I want football, not a game with more rules than a devoted catholic girl.
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12 years ago
When people talk about TDs on the kickoff they think of the receiving team running it back 90-100 yards. I always think of the game where GB scored on a 20 yard return. GB kicked off to Minny and then stole the ball from the return man as he stood at the back of the scrum and ran it back. Was that in the late 80s or early 90s?
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

When people talk about TDs on the kickoff they think of the receiving team running it back 90-100 yards. I always think of the game where GB scored on a 20 yard return. GB kicked off to Minny and then stole the ball from the return man as he stood at the back of the scrum and ran it back. Was that in the late 80s or early 90s?

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No clue, but I bet if you took the top 100 most dramatic plays that changed the outcome of a game, a solid 25% would be related to special teams.
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Rockmolder
12 years ago

When people talk about TDs on the kickoff they think of the receiving team running it back 90-100 yards. I always think of the game where GB scored on a 20 yard return. GB kicked off to Minny and then stole the ball from the return man as he stood at the back of the scrum and ran it back. Was that in the late 80s or early 90s?

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I think about offensive linemen running it back nearly all the way.

Still don't know whether I should laugh or cry when I see that play.
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No clue, but I bet if you took the top 100 most dramatic plays that changed the outcome of a game, a solid 25% would be related to special teams.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



found it. From Packers Hall of fame site .

Nov. 21, 1982 – Football returns after a nearly two-month long players strike, and the Packers couldn’t be much happier. Green Bay overpowers the Minnesota Vikings 26-7 behind 244 passing yards from quarterback Lynn Dickey. The Packers allow Minnesota to convert just one of 14 third-down opportunities as they improve to 3-0. In addition, Vikings return man Sam Harrell fumbles away the second-half kickoff to Maurice Harvey who returns it for a TD that pushes Green Bay’s lead to 19-7. “I’m sure you can understand the deflating effect that has on a team,” Vikings coach Bud Grant says.



They say Harrell fumbled the ball when in fact Harvey came up from behind and ripped the ball from his hands. Harrell was just standing there expecting the refs to blow the ball dead since he wasn't moving but he wasn't down and know one had him wrapped up.

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