gbguy20
13 years ago
HELL YES WE NOW HAVE A MULTIQUOTE BUTTON. it's a little glitchy but it's better than not having one at all. fuck ya. anywho

This is a problem because ... ?

Originally Posted by: Wade 



It's definitely not a problem.

i don't need a bed to suck.

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 



You're the best.

The kind of people who join the police force are the kind of people who find the idea appealing of carrying a club and a gun and being able to use them with virtual impunity. That makes them all suspect in my book. Sure, they are not all bad people; but that doesn't change the fact they have entirely too much power, and too much opportunity to abuse that power. And given the fact cops are indemnified by their departments against wrongdoing, they face almost nothing in the way of liability or consequence. It might be cliche to say that power corrupts, but it's unfortunately also true. Hell, I was the medic who best resisted the corrupting influence of working on the right side of the bars, and by the end of my tour, I was horrified to find even myself screaming at inmates sometimes, because, well, they were on the wrong end of the power differential. That was a huge eye-opener for me, and shook me to the core.

The average American thinks, "Well, I am doing nothing wrong, so that means I have nothing to worry about." The sad reality is, however, that is just not true. Under cover of "probable cause," cops (even the so-called good ones) can and regularly do lie and otherwise break the law, and no one holds them accountable because, after all, they're the good guys, right? In fact, their lawlessness is frequently encouraged at an institutional level.

No doubt most cops join with the best of intentions, and as long as things are going well, I'm sure they are the salt of the earth. But when the shit goes down, I don't trust their mentality one bit. They are virtually without exceptions all good little statists at heart. I've read plenty of personal accounts from cops who admit the big thing that attracts them to their job (besides the great benefits) is the adrenaline rush.

Also, never lose sight of the fact that the Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that cops have no constitutional obligation to protect you. They are entirely within their rights to respond to a situation at their own convenience -- if at all -- when your life is in danger.

If I have to choose between relying on cops, who are the strong arm of the state and face an IA hearing and at worst termination if they make a mistake, and my fellow armed citizens, who cherish liberty as I do and face possible murder charges if they make a mistake, I will place my trust in the hands of the armed citizenry any time.

And the founders of our country would have said the same.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



It's nice that you started this off with such a glaringly wrong statement, made it easy for me to take the rest of it with a grain of salt. I for one would love to be a cop, and it has nothing to do with any of what you mentioned. Then again, I've found I like the idea of what I think cops should be, rather than what they are. I hate the idea of sitting in a cop car hiding with my radar gun out trying to catch people speeding. I hate the idea of doing any of that traffic bullshit. What I do love is the investigative side of things, which is probably why I graduated with a degree in computer forensics. So the more I type the more I realize I do not want to be a cop, I want to be a detective, so maybe you are right, who knows?

I bolded one of you middle paragraphs because it stuck out to me as being completely correct. You are right, cops will say anything to justify why they pulled you over, or why they want to do this, or for you to do that. Then again, that is a huge generalization, and just because I've seen this first hand, does not mean cops in general do it. So I guess I can't say you were right about this either.

Basically, I feel like I just wrote a wall of text that pretty much went nowhere, and has no clear point. Whatever though, I'm still clicking submit.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
I don't see a Forensic expert as a cop.

Big difference.
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gbguy20
13 years ago
That's not what I said :()
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

That's not what I said :()

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



My bad. It wasn't what you said. You said you'd love to be a cop, then kind of backed off from wanting to be a cop and said what they do sucks and you'd want to be a forensic expert. Thus, my confusion.
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