4PackGirl
16 years ago
HEY!!! as a "soccer mom" i resent the fact that i'm sissifying sports OR my twin boys!! i know i'm probably in the minority but i am DEFINATELY old school when it comes to competition, winning, & losing. i don't believe that everybody should get a "prize" just for playing. while it's nice for the losing teams, it sucks for the winners! now i do believe that there has to be a certain amount of graciousness & that winners don't need to rub it in the faces of the losers but when i was a kid, losers got squat & somehow we ALL survived!

i feel the problems are with parents in general. when we as parents get SO freaked out about the competitive aspect of any given sport & begin acting like complete assholes...THAT'S where this whole "don't make anybody feel bad" crap started coming into play. it's as if the leagues were forced to do what the parents are supposed to do which is support each & every player on the field whether they're on your team or not!!!
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16 years ago
Good points Illy. It all boils down to not making the kids FEEL bad. Which to me is STUPID. Think about it........the losing times when you are young teaches you humility, and how to handle dissapointment. It also makes the winning times that much sweeter. If the difference between first and last place are blurred to the point where the first place trophy is only a half inch taller then last place, what is there to make the kids strive to be better? How does that prepare them for adult life after school, when the reality is that those that try harder usually do better? It doesn't.....not one bit. They LEARN through their training as youngsters that working hard for a goal doesn't matter, THEY are SPECIAL. THEY are all that matters, and their FEELINGS are all that matters. I wasn't a member of a championship team until i was out of high school. And i'll tell you what......i appreciated it alot! But i also knew the dissapointment of losing, and was a gracious winner as well. I repsected those that didn't win, and treated them well. That was how i was taught to be.
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16 years ago

Good points Illy. It all boils down to not making the kids FEEL bad. Which to me is STUPID. Think about it........the losing times when you are young teaches you humility, and how to handle dissapointment. It also makes the winning times that much sweeter. If the difference between first and last place are blurred to the point where the first place trophy is only a half inch taller then last place, what is there to make the kids strive to be better? How does that prepare them for adult life after school, when the reality is that those that try harder usually do better? It doesn't.....not one bit. They LEARN through their training as youngsters that working hard for a goal doesn't matter, THEY are SPECIAL. THEY are all that matters, and their FEELINGS are all that matters. I wasn't a member of a championship team until i was out of high school. And i'll tell you what......i appreciated it alot! But i also knew the dissapointment of losing, and was a gracious winner as well. I repsected those that didn't win, and treated them well. That was how i was taught to be.

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This is the post of the week. Everything in this post is 100% true. +1 Cheesey.
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16 years ago
Thank you Fin!!!!
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Packerchick
16 years ago

This kind of thing really ticks me off, hard work and talent gets you success not just showing up. It really ticks me off because last basketball season our team worked our butts off all year and we won a championship. What really ticked me off was that they still gave the other team a trophy even though we killed them.

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Just one more proof of political correctness running amuck.

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A thought Cheesey:

Political Correctness and I have the same initials.
I am a woman and I love football.
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16 years ago

This kind of thing really ticks me off, hard work and talent gets you success not just showing up. It really ticks me off because last basketball season our team worked our butts off all year and we won a championship. What really ticked me off was that they still gave the other team a trophy even though we killed them.

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Just one more proof of political correctness running amuck.

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A thought Cheesey:

Political Correctness and I have the same initials.

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I KNOW PC! I have thought about that fact MANY times!
However.........i think YOU are MUCH more intellegent then the other "PC!" :thumbright:
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IronMan
16 years ago
This happened to Greg Jennings all the time when he was younger.
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16 years ago

This happened to Greg Jennings all the time when he was younger.

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So HE'S the one to blame for all this PC (not you, Packerchick!) crap??? :pottytrain1:
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dhpackr
16 years ago

My niece in Park Falls, Wisconsin was dealt the same type of band in a round about way in the fast pitch softball league.. other parents went to the league and stated if Danielle pitched they were going to pull their kids out. The league came an asked my Sister and her husband if they would be willing to move Danielle up a class in age group. They did and she had a very good season at that level.

While I agree with not letting the kid pitch, if he is dominate at that age level move him up.. happens all the time in sports.. if you are good they move you up in competition.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.. but if I am the kids parents, they have options to allow their kid to continue playing.

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i agree, same thing happened with my nephew. he is ten, plays little league in a small wisconsin town. he is 5ft tall and 130 pounds. the teams he played had the same problem, he was to big and threw to hard. they just moved him up tp play with the 12-14 year olds. no big deal, he to had a gret season.
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16 years ago
Well.....if his family is willing to do that, i see no problem. I just feel he shouldn't be punished for being an overacheiver. I have seen in recent years, where schools have done away with validictorian because they don't want the 'dumber" kids to feel bad. They might not be dumber, they might just not be applying themselves and working as hard as they can. So they see there are no rewards for hard work, so why work hard? Why try your best if theres no payoff at all in the end? It seems its one thing after another that the PC crowd is attacking. Like not keeping score in games....to me thats STUPID. It's a slippery slope that is getting steeper and steeper with this kind of crap. Once the PC crowd wins one battle, they keep going after more and more. It's a dumbing down of America. Like was stated already in this thread, "When everyone is special, no one is".
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