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13 years ago
This case has always fascinated me.. seems odd that they go public with this lead verses the hundreds of others they have received..

Worth follow or just some worthless fodder in the press?


August 1, 2011 6:57 AM

"Most promising" lead in D.B. Cooper case: FBI 

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SEATTLE -- The FBI says it has a "credible" lead in the D.B. Cooper case involving the 1971 hijacking of a passenger jet over Washington state and the suspect's legendary parachute escape.

The fate and identity of the hijacker dubbed "D.B. Cooper" has remained a mystery in the 40 years since a man jumped from a Northwest Orient Airlines 727 flight with $200,000 in ransom.

The recent tip provided to the FBI came from a law enforcement member who directed investigators to a person who might have helpful information on the suspect, FBI spokeswoman Ayn Sandalo Dietrich told The Seattle Times on Sunday. She called the new information the "most promising lead we have right now," but cautioned that investigators were not on the verge of breaking the case.

"With any lead, our first step is to assess how credible it is," Sandalo Dietrich told the Seattle Post Intelligencer on Saturday. "Having this come through another law enforcement (agency), having looked it over when we got it — it seems pretty interesting."

Dietrich says an item belonging to the suspect was sent to a lab in Virginia for forensic testing.

But Geoffrey Grey, author of "Skyjack: The Hunt for D.B. Cooper," tells CBS News finding fingerprints on the item may be difficult.

"When this case happened in the 1970s," Grey points out, "the era of DNA was not upon us, and agents really didn't look out to preserve this evidence in the way we do now."

Dietrich did not provide specifics about the item or the man's identity.

Federal investigators have checked more than 1,000 leads since the suspect bailed out on Nov. 24, 1971, over the Pacific Northwest, and there have been several deathbed confessions, Orr says.

The man who jumped gave his name as Dan Cooper, but Orr notes that no one knows if he survived, or even if he gave his real name. Some believe he was inspired by Canadian comic Dan Cooper, a test pilot who parachuted from planes.

The man claimed shortly after takeoff in Portland, Oregon, that he had a bomb, leading the flight crew to land the plane in Seattle, where passengers were exchanged for parachutes and ransom money.

The flight then took off for Mexico with the suspect and flight crew on board, before the man parachuted from the plane.

This may, Orr observes, be the best clue since 1980, when an eight-year-old boy in Washington State discovered nearly $6,000 cash during a family picnic. The serial numbers matched those of the ransom money.

Word of the FBI's newest tip was first reported by The Telegraph newspaper in London.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Pretty sure Without A Paddle solved this already. haha
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Cheesey
13 years ago
I rememebr MANY years ago, some kid found some of the money on the river bank in the area where he jumped. They were able to trace the serial numbers. But it was a small amount of the money.
I think the guy died. But who really knows?
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13 years ago
Apparently a niece of a man with the last name Cooper turned over some physical evidence.. missed what it was on the radio. Off to google.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
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13 years ago
Story..


Woman says her uncle is D.B. Cooper suspect 

The suspect in the D.B. Cooper skyjacking case is a man named Lynn Doyle Cooper, who reportedly died in 1999, according to ABC News.

By Steve Miletich and Mike CArter

Seattle Times staff reporters

The "credible suspect" the FBI is investigating in the D.B. Cooper skyjacking case is a man named Lynn Doyle Cooper, who reportedly died in 1999.

ABC News first revealed the name Wednesday in an interview with Cooper's niece, Marla Cooper, of Oklahoma City, who said she is cooperating with the FBI.

Steve Dean, the assistant special agent in charge of the criminal division of the Seattle FBI office, confirmed Wednesday that Marla Cooper had contacted the bureau and turned over items to assist in the investigation.

Cooper, citing childhood memories, told ABC News she is convinced her uncle was the man who hijacked a Seattle-bound jet on Thanksgiving Eve 1971 and parachuted over Southwest Washington with $200,000 in cash.

"I'm certain he was my uncle, Lynn Doyle Cooper, who we called L.D. Cooper," she told ABC News.

Although some investigators concluded the skyjacker died in the jump, a body was never was found in what remains America's only unsolved hijacking.

The FBI said earlier this week that it was investigating "a promising lead" in the case, but would only identify a possible suspect as a man who died more than 10 years ago.

Cooper told ABC News that she is working on a book about her uncle, but said that wasn't her primary motivation for coming forward.

She said that she was 8 years old at the time of the fabled skyjacking.

Cooper said she recalled her uncle and a second uncle planning something suspicious at her grandmother's house in Sisters, Ore.

"My two uncles, who I only saw at holiday time, were planning something very mischievous," Cooper told ABC News. "I was watching them using some very expensive walkie-talkies that they had purchased. They left to supposedly go turkey hunting, and Thanksgiving morning I was waiting for them to return."

After Northwest Orient Flight 305 was hijacked, L.D. Cooper came home claiming to have been in a car accident, Cooper told ABC News.

"My uncle L.D. was wearing a white T-shirt and he was bloody and bruised and a mess, and I was horrified. I began to cry. My other uncle, who was with L.D., said Marla just shut up and go get your dad," she said.

She said she is now convinced the car accident was a ruse and that her uncle was injured in a parachute jump.

Cooper also told ABC News she remembers a discussion about the money.

"I heard my uncle say we did it, our money problems are over, we hijacked an airplane," she said.

Cooper says that her two uncles wanted to return to search for the cash, apparently because it was lost in the jump. But her father refused, she told ABC News.

She said she believes her father declined because the FBI was beginning to search the area where Cooper was believed to have landed.

Cooper said she never saw her uncle again after that Thanksgiving and was told he died in 1999. She said she believes he lived in the Northwest and had children.

In the ABC News interview, Marla Cooper displayed a 1972 Polaroid picture of her uncle, whom she identified as a Korean War veteran. She said the picture is similar to the composite sketch of the hijacker.

FBI spokesman Fred Gutt said Monday the bureau's Seattle office has been investigating for more than a year a lead that has "more credibility and detail" than other tips.

Gutt said the FBI's vetting of the case warrants further investigation, noting little contradictory information has emerged that would rule out the possible suspect. But he said that doesn't mean the case is about to be solved.

The FBI laboratory has determined that a guitar strap that belonged to the man is not conducive to lifting fingerprints to compare to partial prints found in the plane, Gutt said.

"It doesn't mean it's a dead end," Gutt said, adding that the case agent is working with the man's family to obtain other items with better surfaces to lift fingerprints.

Gutt said Wednesday that the case is not a high priority, but the new information can't be ignored.

Marla Cooper told ABC News that she provided the FBI with the guitar strap and a Christmas photo of a man pictured with the same strap.

She said that two conversations with her parents initially made her suspicious.

Cooper said the first occurred in 1995, just before her father died.

"My father made a comment about his long, lost brother, my uncle L.D. ... he said, 'Don't you remember he hijacked that airplane?' " she said.

She said she had difficulty believing her father, but in 2009 the subject came up again while speaking with her mother.

"A couple years ago my mother made a comment, another comment, a similar comment that she had always suspected that my uncle L.D. was the real D.B. Cooper," she said.

Cooper told ABC News he contacted the FBI "as soon I was sure that what I was remembering were real memories."

"There's a crime that's taken place that hasn't been solved, and I'm the only one, as far as I know, who knows what happened."

She also said that her uncle was obsessed with the Canadian comic book hero Dan Cooper, and had one of the comic books thumbtacked to the wall.

FBI spokeswoman Ayn Sandalo Dietrich said on Sunday the FBI initially received a tip from a member of law enforcement about a credible person with information on the case.

The passenger who jumped from the Northwest Orient Airlines Boeing 727 on Nov. 24, 1971, identified himself as "Dan Cooper." A day after the skyjacking, FBI agents checked out a Portland man with the name "D.B. Cooper." Although that man was quickly cleared, the name stuck in news-media accounts.

The tall, dark-complexioned man paid $20 cash for a one-way flight from Portland to Seattle. The jet was barely in the air before he told a flight attendant he had a bomb and showed her a briefcase holding several red cylinders and a nest of wires.

When the plane landed in Seattle, passengers were exchanged for parachutes and ransom money paid by the airline. The plane took off and headed south toward Mexico, with the hijacker and the flight crew.

About 30 minutes later, a cockpit warning light showed the rear stairway was fully extended. The pilot asked over the intercom, "Is everything OK back there?"

The hijacker yelled back, "No," and bailed out the back from 10,000 feet into freezing darkness.

Authorities estimated he landed near the small community of Ariel, Cowlitz County, east of Woodland, in a rugged, wooded region.

The man was never found, and only $5,800 of the ransom money — whose serial numbers the FBI had recorded — turned up when a child digging in a sandbar on the north bank of the Columbia River west of Vancouver in 1980 unearthed a bundle of $20 bills.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
MontanaBob
13 years ago
Hey, he's alive and well in Missoula Montana, disguising himself as the Mayor. Funny thing with this whole story is that my supervising teacher way back when I did my student teaching was David Baldwin Cooper, and he really got grilled by the FBI, police, KGB, Interpol, and everyone else in law enforcement at that time.

When we moved back to Missoula in 1976 I looked him up and asked him if he could loan me a few thousand dollars. He wasn't amused. Jeez, he needed to lighten up a bit.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago

Hey, he's alive and well in Missoula Montana, disguising himself as the Mayor. Funny thing with this whole story is that my supervising teacher way back when I did my student teaching was David Baldwin Cooper, and he really got grilled by the FBI, police, KGB, Interpol, and everyone else in law enforcement at that time.

When we moved back to Missoula in 1976 I looked him up and asked him if he could loan me a few thousand dollars. He wasn't amused. Jeez, he needed to lighten up a bit.

Originally Posted by: MontanaBob 



At the college I went to, we had a Prof named Jim Jones. When he'd disagree with someone, he'd joke about giving them cool aid. It went over their heads. Bummer nobody got the reference.
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13 years ago

At the college I went to, we had a Prof named Jim Jones. When he'd disagree with someone, he'd joke about giving them cool aid. It went over their heads. Bummer nobody got the reference.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



I always find the idiosyncrasies of catch phrases to be interesting in their origins.

One often hears, "drinking the Kool Aid", but few take the time to understand its roots.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
DakotaT
13 years ago

I always find the idiosyncrasies of catch phrases to be interesting in their origins.

One often hears, "drinking the Kool Aid", but few take the time to understand its roots.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 




I think we have a fine collection of well rounded people in this forum. In fact, how we all found one another is kind of cool. I'm even starting to read more of the thesis type post of some of the intellctuals around here, instead of just using the Bold Print method of reading.
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IronMan
13 years ago
James Starks is D.B. Cooper.
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