porky88
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13 years ago

The Eagles are looking REALLY tough on paper. We shall see how that materializes. I still think their chances depend on the health of Vick, which I am skeptical of.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 


The health of Vick is obviously huge, but also his play. He played in 12 games last season. He didn't turn the ball over at all in the first six. In his final six regular-season games, he turned the ball over in every game. Perhaps it was the bad weather or perhaps defenses started to figure him out again.

Nonetheless, on paper, I agree the Eagles are shaping up as the toughest challengers to the Packers in the NFC.
Formo
13 years ago
Iggles, you Pukers, and the Pats are my top teams so far this offseason.

Wow.
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nyrpack
13 years ago
i just cant understand how philly can spend this much money on these guys, and we cant spend anything on even our own players ??
jimmy b.
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

i just cant understand how philly can spend this much money on these guys, and we cant spend anything on even our own players ??

Originally Posted by: nyrpack 



*Yawn.* And the yearly refrain starts anew.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

*Yawn.* And the yearly refrain starts anew.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 


Yeah, but we did resign Swain and Havner.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
DoddPower
13 years ago

The health of Vick is obviously huge, but also his play. He played in 12 games last season. He didn't turn the ball over at all in the first six. In his final six regular-season games, he turned the ball over in every game. Perhaps it was the bad weather or perhaps defenses started to figure him out again.

Nonetheless, on paper, I agree the Eagles are shaping up as the toughest challengers to the Packers in the NFC.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



I agree Porky. I don't think Vick will surprise nearly as many people this season, especially as the minor aches and pains start lingering. I remember the Giants giving him an ass kicking later in the year and on paper they got better as well. Vick may destroy some of the average defense, but against the likes of the Packers, Giants, Steelers, etc., I just don't see it, especially late in the year. He's not a championship QB alone. Although, the defense may very well be able to carry him. Babin, Cole, and Jenkins coming at you would be intimidating, not to mention they'll get many coverage sacks.

It will be interesting for sure, but I've been saying all along that as long as Rodgers is playing like he did throughout the playoffs, the Eagles will not beat the Packers.
Formo
13 years ago

I agree Porky. I don't think Vick will surprise nearly as many people this season, especially as the minor aches and pains start lingering. I remember the Giants giving him an ass kicking later in the year and on paper they got better as well. Vick may destroy some of the average defense, but against the likes of the Packers, Giants, Steelers, etc., I just don't see it, especially late in the year. He's not a championship QB alone. Although, the defense may very well be able to carry him. Babin, Cole, and Jenkins coming at you would be intimidating, not to mention they'll get many coverage sacks.

It will be interesting for sure, but I've been saying all along that as long as Rodgers is playing like he did throughout the playoffs, the Eagles will not beat the Packers.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



Lets not forget that game where Joe Webb(!?) and the Vikings put the hurt down on Vick late last season, too.
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musccy
13 years ago
I was shocked that he signed for 5 mil/yr, and as has been noted, it could essentially be a 1 year 4 mil contract...hell, he hardly signed for more than Crosby did.

As some originial posters said or alluded to, maybe he was playing more for the contract year, or maybe the injury history is more concerning than the Eagles realize, but it does seem like he got away a lot cheaper than I expected.
nyrpack
13 years ago

*Yawn.* And the yearly refrain starts anew.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



i guess your happy losing guys like :


jenkins
jackson
barnett
colledge
chillar
poppinga ect...

i dont badmouth my team just voice concern theres a difference yawn !!
jimmy b.
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
You seem to have some reading comprehension issues. I wasn't talking about whether I like the Packers losing players. I was merely addressing the fact that every year, people whine about Ted Thompson not dipping into the free agent market every year. Every year, with the exception of the 6-10 season, Ted Thompson teams do pretty well. I don't understand why people keep harping on the same issue.

Read my words. Don't read into my words.
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