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Laser Gunns
Senior Member

13 years ago

#11

Lenoard Davis, a Pro Bowl Road Grading Penalty Machine has been informed he will be released..

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

fixed it for ya.

MintBaconDrivel
Dec, 11, 2012 - FOREVER!

Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#12

I can't believe how shitty the Bengals are treating Carson. I wouldn't want him to leave either, but at the same time you are just showing other players in the league that you don't care about them and only the business side of the deal. At least trade him.. You will get something in return instead of forcing the guy to either A)retire, or B)play half-assed. Either way, your team is screwed.

Brown and his cronies haven't done that franchise any justice. He's worse than Jerry Jones.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#13

Originally Posted by: Formo

Who needs to honor a contract, right? [duh]

Carson Palmer
12/29/2005: Signed a six-year, $118.75 million contract extension through 2014. The deal included a $15 million signing bonus and a third-year option bonus of $9 million.
2011: $11.5 million,
2012: $11.5 million,
2013: $13 million,
2014: $14 million,
2015: Free Agent

rotoworld wrote:

Yep, set the precedent that if you throw a tantrum, or threaten to retire the team will cave, that's the wise decision! =d> =d> =d>

Pack93z
Select Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#14

Correct.. but from a players perspective that contract doesn't mean diddly if the team wishes to cut you.

Ask Nick Barnett today.

Point is, that deal was signed long ago, Mike Brown isn't capable of putting a winning team on the field.. so what other options does Carson have?

He made it simple for the Bengals.. trade me and get some compensation or allow me to retire and get jack.

He made one statement, did it in a professional manner.. I am okay with it in this case.

After all it is the Bengals, Carson has treated the franchise correctly, and he committed some time ago.

Factors change.. life changes.. to me it is like a divorce.. it is time to move on.

If anything.. it is a lesson for players, don't sign a long term deal. Sign for a couple season (4) max. Give yourself an out.. you can always resign another deal if it makes sense for all parties.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#15

Who needs to honor a contract, right? [duh]

Yep, set the precedent that if you throw a tantrum, or threaten to retire the team will cave, that's the wise decision! =d> =d> =d>

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

There you go.. the business side of things. That's great and all. I understand there's a contract involved, and that it's part of the game. That's Carson's fault for signing the thing.

But looking at the history of Brown and how his model of 'business' has gone.. Looks to me it isn't working. There's a thing called 'being reasonable'. In this case, Brown and Co. are NOT exercising that skill.

It's one thing when Ochocinco throws a tantrum and the FO guys play hardball. But when it's your QB that has done nothing but bust his balls in the most professional manner (and probably screwed up his knee for life mind you).. makes one wonder if it really isn't the players CONTRACTED on the field that's to blame for the lack of success.

My point: It doesn't make any sense, business or football, to keep a guy in shackles without even the respect for him to have a ransom. All they are doing is either burying a career or wasting $11 million dollars.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#16

They should just let players jump to whichever team they want, when they want and save the paperwork of contracts. Right?

I don't much like it when teams cut players before the end of the contract and I don't much care for players trying to force the teams hand in letting them play elsewhere.

A contract is a contract, period. HONOR THE FUCKING THING YOU SIGNED YOUR NAME TOO!

What you're saying ... my opinion, bullshit way to do business, but hey, you're a Vikings fan so what the hell do you know about a successful franchise?

(ok that was a low blow, but cmon it was funneh!!! lol)

Pack93z
Select Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#17

A contract is a contract, period. HONOR THE FUCKING THING YOU SIGNED YOUR NAME TOO!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Agreed.. that is one area that Baseball has it right.. guaranteed dollars.. so if you sign the player you pay the player til the end. I think it also plays into where you don't see many holdout in the sport.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#18

Report: Vikings, Redskins talking McNabb trade

Apparently the Vikings haven't learned their lesson. Then again, '09 was pretty awesome for them. And ended awesome for ... me. 🙂

Pack93z
Select Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#19

I called that earlier this offseason.. McNabb to the Vikes.. best news I heard all day.. even better than Jones cutting salary.

McNabb just doesn't have "it".. AP better have a great year with McNabb in MN.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Formo
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#20

Report: Vikings, Redskins talking McNabb trade

Apparently the Vikings haven't learned their lesson. Then again, '09 was pretty awesome for them. And ended awesome for ... me. :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Totally different scenario. But judging from your black and white argument about Carson's contractual 'obligation', I'm not surprised you got this wrong too.

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