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13 years ago
It's 14:47 in the UK, 09:47 in New York

Lets get this thing signed sealed and delivered and lets have training camps and free agency on the go.

Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!](*,) 😣 😣
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I feel very wrong now!!!!!!!!!
Pack93z
13 years ago
Expect a number of reports containing frustrations and some "red" flags.. I think there is going to be a number of infighting issues to be resolved today.. namely a number of players that take issue with the, even if they deny it, special treatment of a couple named in the lawsuit.



Personally.. I don't buy that it wasn't asked for.. by whom on their behalf maybe, but I believe the question was asked. And reports I heard this morning on Mike&Mike is that some players are a little heated about it..



So I fully expect the players to take a good long time today to hash out these "non" asked for exceptions in addition to presenting and digesting the CBA proposal.
"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
flep
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13 years ago

Expect a number of reports containing frustrations and some "red" flags.. I think there is going to be a number of infighting issues to be resolved today.. namely a number of players that take issue with the, even if they deny it, special treatment of a couple named in the lawsuit.



Personally.. I don't buy that it wasn't asked for.. by whom on their behalf maybe, but I believe the question was asked. And reports I heard this morning on Mike&Mike is that some players are a little heated about it..



So I fully expect the players to take a good long time today to hash out these "non" asked for exceptions in addition to presenting and digesting the CBA proposal.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



We all know who these players are...... maybe the players who are upset could take out their frustration on the field.

Now that would be fun!!!
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DakotaT
13 years ago

We all know who these players are...... maybe the players who are upset could take out their frustration on the field.

Now that would be fun!!!

Originally Posted by: flep 




Yeah like a Julius Peppers helmet to helmet missile launch upside Peyton's huge melon. Now I'd enjoy that.
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Pack93z
13 years ago
As always.. a solid read.





http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Labor-pains-ending-baby-coming-soon.html 

Labor Pains ending; Baby coming soon

All is still trending towards the NFL labor pains leading to delivery of a baby soon. And while we still expect a smooth landing, some last-minute turbulence has manifested itself in the recent settlement requests of the named Brady plaintiffs.


Named hold-ups


Jackson will not hold up a deal.


The horse-trading I mentioned previously  has taken shape. Vincent Jackson and Logan Mankins, casualties of the 2010 uncapped rules, were reported to not be going quietly into a settlement. Both were designated with franchise tags prior to the NFL locking out in March and said to have requested/demanded full free agency and/or a lump-sum payment to compensate them for their restriction.


If true, these requests were neither new nor out of left field. I am told these requests have been swirling for some time, with the player agents and outside counsel pressing DeMaurice Smith to present them as important issues towards settlement. As to precedent, in 1993, all named plaintiffs in the Reggie White v. NFL case were exempted from receiving franchise tag designation for the rest of their careers.


These were minor speed bumps, though, as updated reports – and a tweet from Jackson – suggest there is no longer an issue. Thus, with optimism towards resolution in mind, let's look at the steps by which a new CBA would come to fruition.


The road to a CBA


This morning, a completed draft is being readied for the NFLPA Executive Committee and the NFL's Labor Committee. The NFLPA Executive Committee and all 32 player representatives are set to meet today in Washington to peruse, and hopefully approve, a proposed settlement. A full vote by all 1900 players would then take place. Players would recommend that the Brady named plaintiffs sign off on the deal. Upon approval by the named plaintiffs, the ball would change possession into the Owners' hands.


On Thursday, the Owners are meeting Atlanta, with two or more executives from each team attending. If at least 24 of 32 owners ratify the proposed CBA, peace will be born after four months of grueling labor pains. The NFL would then spend Thursday and Friday briefing team executives on the intricacies of the new CBA.


Comprehensive settlement


The pending litigation and related matters – Brady v. NFL, the television contract case under Judge Doty, the NFL's unfair labor practice charge with the NLRB, the NFLPA collusion grievance from last year, etc. – are expected to be rolled up into one all-encompassing "global settlement" between the parties.


Recertification


Without a union, the labor exemption – shielding the NFL from antitrust liability – does not attach. As part of the new CBA, the NFL insists that the NFLPA return to its previous role as the exclusive union of NFL Players.


If recertification mirrors the 1993 post-White recertification, there must be:


• A majority vote (50% + 1) of NFL players – by signed authorization cards – designating the NFLPA as the exclusive collective bargaining representative of all present and future players

• The NFL voluntarily recognizing the NFLPA

• The NFLPA filing a notice with the U.S. Department of Labor and an application with the IRS (to reclassify for tax purposes from a trade association to a labor organization)


Although it sounds like a lot, in today's electronic age, preparations have likely been made for this to be done electronically, via the Internet, saving some much-needed time.


Judge Nelson's blessing


Beyond the Player and Owner votes, there is the matter of the still-pending Brady v. NFL and presenting their settlement agreement to Judge Susan Nelson, the presiding judge who has been apprised of all the negotiations from mediator Arthur Boylan.


Nelson would ensure notice was given to all 1900 NFL Players and potentially hold a hearing where Players unsatisfied with the proposed settlement are afforded the opportunity to object (Judge Doty held the same in 1993 with only a handful of players objecting). Nelson would have ultimate authority to approve the ten-year settlement and end Brady.


This process – more of a formality, especially once the NFLPA recertifies – is not expected to delay the resumption of NFL football.


A not so simple issue


One issue all sides will be watching is what will happen with decertification.  The Owners will try to foreclose the NFLPA's ability to decertify in the future; the Players will resist mightily. To deny decertification as an option will be a major blow to future union leaders in all major sports leagues.


With a ten-year agreement, decertification is not something that will concern the NFL for a long time, but it is in the interest of both parties to find a mutually agreeable solution, and incorporate it into an explicit and unambiguous clause in the next CBA.


Judicial oversight


The 1993 CBA – as a result of the White settlement – carried oversight from the Minnesota District Court. That oversight has represented a pebble in the shoe of the NFL, with Judge David Doty's rulings – for Michael Vick and others – costing Owners tens of millions.


The Owners are insistent in not having similar oversight in the coming agreement, and I sense they will not.


Timeline


Upon expected approval by the full NFL ownership tomorrow in Atlanta, there is a seminar scheduled for team negotiators to review the new rules to play under in the business of football.


As we expected, there will likely be a three-day period of interaction between teams and their own players – players under contract, rookies, pending free agents. That period will be full of tampering, as players and agents will want to know what is behind Door Number Two before agreeing with their own team.


Following that time, the bell will ring on the 2011 League Year, setting off the building of rosters and talent in as compressed a time period as the modern NFL has known. Teams and agents are bracing themselves, but fans are ecstatic.


"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"
flep
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13 years ago
Thanks for the above

Here's Vincent Jackson's Tweet

@VincentTJackson VJ
Preciate the support guys! Can't believe all u read or see in media. I have made no demands, I wanna play ball like the rest of my peers!
14 hours ago via Twitter for Android


Good to see
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wpr
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13 years ago
So close and yet so far.
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flep
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13 years ago
Just up on NFL now players not voting today

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Cheesey
13 years ago
They need to get this over with.
Both sides will lose alot of money if they can't get the full season in.
Time for the greedy (CENSORED) to (CENSORED) or get off the pot!!!
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