nerdmann
13 years ago
Looking back at this game now, it hurts A LOT less than it did at the time. I guess knowing that we'd go on to not only beat Chicago twice, but win the Superbowl too takes the sting away. Still, it was a disgusting display.
It was one of those games where we went out there and showed that we're a better team, but we lose anyway.

WHAT COST US THIS GAME: What cost us this game was 1: 18 penalties, including two 15 yarders on Chicago's tying drive. 2: JJ's game costing fumble. 3: Devin Hester's punt return for a TD. 4: You could also say that Mike McCarthy not "letting them score" at the end didn't give us one last shot, but that is just a matter of judgment. Not all coaches think that way. With this defense, a turnover is ALWAYS possible.

JAMES JONES: Since I noticed so many incompletions involving JJ last game, I decided to key on him specifically this game.
-5:00 1st Q, caught the ball and bulled forward for the first down.
-:18 1st, gets a screen and goes 12 yards along the sideline, but misses the first down by a yard or so.
-13:21 I believe in the 3rd, got 11 in the middle of the field.
-2:20 4th This was the play that cost us the game. The game was tied and Arodge was driving us consistently, solidly down the field. He hits JJ along the right sideline, JJ turns and goes up the sideline, when he's stripped by Briggs and Urlacher. Bear5 recover.

OFFENSE:
-MM has a play where AR12 fakes a handoff and rolls the opposite way. Finley comes open across the middle, moving against the flow of the play and when this play works, it's awesome.
-4:31 AR12 wastes another timeout. Seems like he does that early in every game. I think they did get a TD on this drive though.
-11:37 2nd Packers were stuck on the 10 after Derrick Martin tried to return an INT out of the endzone. But Finley comes up big with a 27 yard reception to give us some room. Looked good.
-Announcers break in with news that Trend Edwards was released by the Bills, who we had played (and crushed) the previous week.
-Packers got the ball right before the half, and Mike McCarthy didn't just run out the clock. I appreciated that. It was a close game. Arodge got INT'd on a hail mary. Urlacher knocked it down right to Briggs. Looks bad on the stat sheet, but it was meaningless.
-In the first half, the Packers had 7 rushes for 8 yards.
-7:18 3rd, Tauscher kept holding Peppers. One of these holds resulted in a TD having to come off the scoreboard. This resulted in a blocked FG by Peppers.
-:23 3rd, Third down and less than a yard. Arodge gets called for delay of game, causing us to lose 5 yards. Sucked. Again, penalties were one of the things that caused us to lose this game. Anyway, the resulting punt after this play was a line drive 35 yarder which Hester returned to the house. BAM.
-9:11 4th Kuhn takes a pitch, makes one cut and goes for 20 yards, dragging a huge pile of Bears for the last 8. How does he do it!? At this time, Kuhn was 6 carries 31 yards.
-7:44 Penalty against the Bears, Peppers iirc, for roughing the passer for a shot to Rodgers' head. This is when Arodge started getting these calls. Up until this play, including the entire 2009 season, taking shots to Rodgers head seemed to be legal. Afterwards, no more.
-6:59 Quarless drops a sure TD in the endzone.
-6:52 Rodgers scrambles for a TD.
-2:20 The final drive, the Packers were doing very well. It was Aaron Rodgers time. But JJ fumbled the ball (and the game) away to seal the Bears win.

DEFENSE:
-9:58 1st, Woody with a big PI. Grabbed Hester. This continues Woody's tendency to be too aggressive and get flagged.
-8:22 Bears miss a FG, ends their first drive.
-1:57 Derrick Martin with a huge INT in the endzone, but tried to return it, got only back to the 10. This led to a 55 yard punt by Masthay, which included an extra 10 yards for holding on the Bears.
-14:52 2nd Very nearly picked off by Collins.
-There seemed to be alot of sacks and alot of pressure today.
-2:00 First 35 line drive punt by Masthay, who himself tackled Hester.
-:26 The Bears score right before the half to pull within 3. This drive included a 21 yard play to Knox over Shields and a TD pass which went right by a diving Chillar.
-6:33 3rd, blocked FG by Peppers. Just disgusting. Previous play 7 came off the board due to Tauscher's holding of Peppers.
-5:27 Johnny Knox 36 yards over Shields.
-1:54 Sitton plays DL on a tough goal line 5tand.
-6:38 4th, Barnett INT called back by a roughing the pa55er on Cutler. Fir5t of two huge penaltie5 on thi5 drive.
-6:21 Unnece55ary roughne55 again5t Collin5. Body 5lammed Forte after the play.
-3:59 FG tie5 game for Bear5.
-2:05 Collin5 picked off Cutler, but dropped the ball. Looked like a fumble, but they didn't even run a replay of it on TV. Mike McCarthy didn't challenge.
-1:44 one or two play5 later, Collin5 picked off Cutler again, but it wa5 ruled PI on Morgan Burnett, who got tangled with the WR. BAM!
-From here, the defence did not let the Bear5 5core to get the ball back with time remaining on the clock. Time ran out, and the offen5e never got another chance. Bear5 kicked a FG with :04 remaining.

Jordy had a KO return to the 40, but overall the 5pecial team5 contributed to thi5 lo55. There wa5 a huge off5ide on a kickoff, there wa5 a mi55ed FG and two line drive punt5, one of which went to the hou5e for the margin of victory.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
What's up with all the 5's instead of S's?

And don't bring up Aaron Rodgers' wasting an unusual number of timeouts in the first quarter. Certain members here (I won't name names) will tear you a new one for gratuitous criticism of Mike McCarthy and the offense. Even though I showed months ago that the Packers do take a disproportionate number of timeouts in the first quarter.:-"
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

What's up with all the 5's instead of S's?

And don't bring up Aaron Rodgers' wasting an unusual number of timeouts in the first quarter. Certain members here (I won't name names) will tear you a new one for gratuitous criticism of Mike McCarthy and the offense. Even though I showed months ago that the Packers do take a disproportionate number of timeouts in the first quarter.:-"

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



I remember someone bitching about this last season and I still fail to follow. Did the Packers miss an opportunity to win a game because they lacked a time out that was used in the first quarter unnecessarily?
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
No, it just seemed symptomatic of the odd "slow starts" to which this team seems prone.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

No, it just seemed symptomatic of the odd "slow starts" to which this team seems prone.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 




I suppose since the Packers won the Super Bowl, they know what they are doing, perhaps other teams should take more time in the first half to get their ducks in row? I'd still be interest in seeing a team by team comparison that proves the Packers use more timeouts in the first quarter than others.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

I suppose since the Packers won the Super Bowl, they know what they are doing, perhaps other teams should take more time in the first half to get their ducks in row? I'd still be interest in seeing a team by team comparison that proves the Packers use more timeouts in the first quarter than others.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



What about the 3rd quarter problems. I noticed a lot games where they struggled in the 3rd. In never counted or looked them up. But it seemed to be an issue.

Including the Super Bowl.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

What about the 3rd quarter problems. I noticed a lot games where they struggled in the 3rd. In never counted or looked them up. But it seemed to be an issue.

Including the Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



And once again I ask a question that NO ONE is answering, how does it compare to OTHER teams in the NFL? Fact is, when you're a fan of a team, you focus on that team heavily. There are 31 other teams, who's to say they don't experience similar issues? We put the Packers under a microscope because we watch every play of every game, therefore we're inherently more critical of their play an play style.

If you're just going one team sucks at this or that over and over and not provide any bench mark, ... what's the point?


BTW, how about this? ;)
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13 years ago

What about the 3rd quarter problems. I noticed a lot games where they struggled in the 3rd. In never counted or looked them up. But it seemed to be an issue.

Including the Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



Yeah, it seemed to me like the 3rd quarter was more of a problem than the first. It's not like the Packers let teams get big leads on them at any point this year. They were usually in charge or at least neck and neck, and they'd let teams back into games late sometimes.
Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

And once again I ask a question that NO ONE is answering, how does it compare to OTHER teams in the NFL? Fact is, when you're a fan of a team, you focus on that team heavily. There are 31 other teams, who's to say they don't experience similar issues? We put the Packers under a microscope because we watch every play of every game, therefore we're inherently more critical of their play an play style.

If you're just going one team sucks at this or that over and over and not provide any bench mark, ... what's the point?


BTW, how about this? ;)
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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I am not a habitual basher or whiner. I tend to be more on the side of lets see how it goes because they are the professionals, rather than they are doing it wrong and I am the only one who knows how to do it right.

I was just noting what looked like an odd trend. 3rd quarters seemed unusually tough, specially for the WRs. I remembered watching the Super Bowl and when the 3rd quarter expired, we still had a lead. I thought, good now we can get back on track. The next play, Clay put "The Hit" on Mendenhall, we got the ball back and scored.

It was almost like nothing worked right in the 3rd quarter. Rodgers missed an open Quarless over the middle. Nelson and Jones had some easy passes dropped. We couldn't seem to stop the run. Then the Quarter ended and it was back to normal.
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Coming out of half time and running it and running it regardless of the score ... I didn't much care for that line of thinking.
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