Kingkoopa
13 years ago
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/22352/jerry-kramer-rips-drew-brees 

By Pat Yasinskas
We might not have football just yet, but we’ve got a war of words that could add some hype to what’s supposed to be the season-opening game between the New Orleans Saints and the Green Bay Packers.

We’ve got an icon from one franchise taking shots at an icon from another. Retired Green Bay player Jerry Kramer ripped into current New Orleans quarterback Drew Brees in this interview.

"Drew Brees is stupid," Kramer said. "He's young, ignorant, has no experience and doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. Life brings a lot of different things at you, and Drew hasn't seen any of the bad ones yet. He's been fortunate, but there are a lot of different reasons out there why guys can't hold on to their money and it's not really our position to judge whether they should have held on to their money or not. They need help.’’

Brees, who is very active in the NFL Players Association, made some earlier comments about how he doesn’t feel sorry for some retired players who made bad business decisions and had to dip into their pensions early.

Obviously, benefits for retired players have been a part of the talks for a new labor deal. I respect what Kramer did as a player and I do agree there are players out there with physical ailments that deserve help. But I think Brees had a valid point that current players shouldn’t be picking up the tab for retired players who squandered their money by making bad choices.
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Kingkoopa
13 years ago
Here is the exact quote by the way.

Fink: DREW BREES SAID LAST WEEK THAT, ESSENTIALLY THE GUYS THAT RETIRE -- I THINK HE WAS TALKING MORE ABOUT THE GUYS THAT RETIRED RECENTLY -- NEED TO PREPARE TO THEMSELVES TO HAVE A JOB AFTER FOOTBALL. IS THAT A SHORTSIGHTED STATEMENT?

Kramer: Drew Brees is stupid. He's young, ignorant, has no experience and doesn't know what the hell he is talking about. Life brings a lot of different things at you, and Drew hasn't seen any of the bad ones yet. He's been fortunate, but there are a lot of different reasons out there why guys can't hold on to their money and it's not really our position to judge whether they should have held on to their money or not. They need help. Let's try and help them turn it around and get them going again. Let's not say, 'Hey, go bury yourself or climb in a hole because we don't owe you anything.' There is a lot of reasons why guys need help, and if a guy needs help, I think, it's my responsibility to try and help, not figure out what he should have done or where he should have gotten a different education or what his momma should have told him a long time ago. If I were as smart as Drew Brees I would know all of that stuff, but I don't.

Source:

http://www.wbay.com/story/15069914/2011/07/12/conversation-with-jerry-kramer 
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