Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Good point. I hadn't thought about that site.

And I could say "youse guys" if you would prefer. :-&

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Tell ya what, when I add a Hit Counter or Ad links to procure "hits", then you can include me in that sentence tell then, eat rotten bananas!!!
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Formo
14 years ago
Z2C getting sand in his vagina?! NO WAI!?

To add to the discussion.. I know PP.O has gotten threatened by local newspapers for posting entire articles.. Even with a link provided. So what the 'news hounds' have done to keep in compliance with copyright infringement is post parts of the article in quotes while supplying a link (same as what I do here when/if I post an article).

But that sounds like it's unacceptable to Kevin to post any link/article from those sources.. Forget the whole part where sharing some sports news with others is a good thing part. šŸ˜›
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

So what the 'news hounds' have done to keep in compliance with copyright infringement is post parts of the article in quotes while supplying a link (same as what I do here when/if I post an article).

But that sounds like it's unacceptable to Kevin to post any link/article from those sources.. Forget the whole part where sharing some sports news with others is a good thing part. =P

Originally Posted by: Formo 



](*,) You're kidding me with this, right? I mean, you did READ what I've said-repeatedly, right?


I believe GayPride.org, err PurplePride.org uses ad's on their site and profits from them.

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Formo
14 years ago

](*,) You're kidding me with this, right? I mean, you did READ what I've said-repeatedly, right?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I have. Your point?


]I believe GayPride.org, err PurplePride.org uses ad's on their site and profits from them.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Awww How cute. Nothing like using some homophobic derogatory terms to knock someone's football team. šŸ˜› Wait.. they do? I have yet to see any sort of banner ads on PP.O buddy. Now, Webby might have some other ways linked to the sight to make some money.. but as far as I know the only money he gets from the sight is donations and a partnership with a local sports TV show that HE helps head up.. But again.. Not sure how and/IF that partnership puts money in his pocket.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

I have. Your point?

Originally Posted by: Formo 

You have?

Then color me confused because you said this ...

But that sounds like it's unacceptable to Kevin to post any link/article from those sources.. Forget the whole part where sharing some sports news with others is a good thing part. =P

Originally Posted by: Formo 



After I said this

Quite a few don't like Mike Florio, but I really like how he writes up his own opinion-perception-summary to articles he's read and then links to them. I personally think most of the article, plus a link and whomever is posting said link/article should give a thought out opinion on what they've posted serves everyone's interest admirably. I know I'm guilty of failing to do that because often times, I'll find an article and just post it here so I can read it later.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



and this

To avoid any conflict, if an author/writer does not want their stuff posted elsewhere, I don't want it here at all. In what some will claim hypocritical fashion, if it's a place like ESPN or some other already prominent website, full article with link or summary with link is perfectly acceptable.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Which implies you have not read what I've said in this thread, yet feel you have the right to voice what I want --- for me. That's pretty bold and very disrespectful. I, for one, do NOT appreciate it at all. I have plenty of experience saying stupid shit, I don't need your help.




Awww How cute. Nothing like using some homophobic derogatory terms to knock someone's football team. šŸ˜› Wait.. they do? I have yet to see any sort of banner ads on PP.O buddy. Now, Webby might have some other ways linked to the sight to make some money.. but as far as I know the only money he gets from the sight is donations and a partnership with a local sports TV show that HE helps head up.. But again.. Not sure how and/IF that partnership puts money in his pocket.

Originally Posted by: Formo 


Last night when I went to PurplePride.org I thought I saw some ad for some magazine. I'd check again, but the site (in typical Vikings fashion) is failing to show up when needed.
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Formo
14 years ago

To avoid any conflict, if an author/writer does not want their stuff posted elsewhere, I don't want it here at all.



This is the line I'm commenting about. It's not that an author doesn't want their stuff posted elsewhere.. its that they don't want their ENTIRE article copy and pasted elsewhere (taking away from clicks/copyright infringement BS). But if I misunderstood you and that's NOT what you meant, then I take full responsibility for my calling you out.

Typically I don't notice ads on websites unless they are like the ones at ESPN.com that pop out and make sounds.. But I hit just about every page at PP.O the past few days and have yet to notice a single ad (again, with the exception of the tv show that Webby helps out with). So, I don't know what you are referring to.

EDIT: I checked the front page of PP.O and saw that magazine ad you saw. That isn't a banner ad or anything like that per se.. I believe that's another side deal Webby has, seeing as that magazine is a Midwest racing mag. If you look at the section the ad is in, it's in the same section as the tv show's spot. Under the header of 'Teammates'. Maybe that's your definition of ads on a website, I dunno. But my definition is a banner or column ad that is designed more like the ads at GopherHole.com, gucomics.com, or ESPN.com, where basically the site owners get revenue by the ad company that puts together those banner/column ads. Partnerships with local websites that have an 'ad' in only ONE section of the website isn't much of an ad to me.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
I can completely understand Kevin's reasoning. Websites who want only short excerpts of their content to be posted elsewhere are basically asking other sites to advertise for them -- for free. I find this recent idea that customers should do the advertising for companies rather bogus, which is why I don't (among other things) "Like" companies on Facebook. If they want to advertise, let them pay for it. If other sites want to use forums like this as a springboard for traffic, they should be willing to pay for the clicks.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Rourke has a good grasp of where I'm coming from.


Anyhow, my last response was unnecessarily confrontational. I'm done with this. I've said my piece and if it's not understand, it's not my fault, it's that of whom fails to get it. If someone has a specific question, I'll answer. Otherwise, I'm outtie this one.
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Formo
14 years ago

I can completely understand Kevin's reasoning. Websites who want only short excerpts of their content to be posted elsewhere are basically asking other sites to advertise for them -- for free. I find this recent idea that customers should do the advertising for companies rather bogus, which is why I don't (among other things) "Like" companies on Facebook. If they want to advertise, let them pay for it. If other sites want to use forums like this as a springboard for traffic, they should be willing to pay for the clicks.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Certainly in some cases you are correct. I'm not disputing that, but then again, my point wasn't to knock or validate why ANY site would want partial, if any, of their content posted on another site. My point point was how I didn't understand why Kev didn't want to have ANY article quoted here if the original author didn't want their whole article posted elsewhere. Simply because the 'fix' to said issue is to just quote PART of the article and provide a link for those interested in the article in it's entirety.

IE I run across an article I find interesting and very informative. I want to either share it with ya'll or I use it as a reference. But because the author has the rights to say "Don't post this article in it's entirety, if you want to use/share it, provide a link", there's confusion on my part whether or not to post it because of Kevin's statement: "To avoid any conflict, if an author/writer does not want their stuff posted elsewhere, I don't want it here at all."

But if his issue is not wanting to provide the free 'advertisement' or clicks, that's his prerogative. I just viewed it as more of a copyright issue than anything else (again, because of the issue PP.O had awhile back with local media outlets).
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