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14 years ago
What makes Lloyd NFL's 58th-best? Not his entire body of work 

Of all the selections made in NFL Network's "The Top 100 Players of 2011" series, none has struck me as more out of whack than Denver Broncos wide receiver Brandon Lloyd being No. 58.

The issue isn't necessarily with Lloyd being ranked as highly as he was, although I do have somewhat of a problem with that. The real issue is with how the question has been taken.

If the survey, answered by players, holds to the form of the series' title, then Lloyd is worthy of being among the top 100 players of 2011. He led all NFL receivers with 1,448 yards last season, had 11 touchdown catches and averaged 18.8 yards per grab, one of the league's best marks. His 77 catches were by far a career high.

There is no way I would have rated him above Green Bay's Greg Jennings (No. 74) or Miami's Brandon Marshall (No. 61), but based on his 2010 season, Lloyd earned top 100 consideration.

However, seeing as though players such as Washington Redskins quarterback Donovan McNabb, who didn't play well last season and eventually was benched for Rex Grossman, and injured Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo also made this list, there seems to be confusion as to if the series really is about the top 100 active players, based on their entire body of work.

If that's the case, then there's no way Lloyd makes the list.

In the seven seasons before his breakout gem, Lloyd never caught more than 48 passes, and that came in 2005 when he was with the San Francisco 49ers. The Redskins traded third- and fourth-round picks for Lloyd in 2006, but he flopped during two frustrating seasons with just 25 total catches and no touchdowns. Lloyd showed flashes for the Chicago Bears -- but not much more -- in 2008 and eventually was back on the street.

The Broncos signed Lloyd, who took advantage of being in a pass-first system under former coach Josh McDaniels. Lloyd also caught a break when 2010 first-round pick Demaryius Thomas suffered a preseason foot injury, making the veteran the main target in Denver.

Lloyd should receive credit for finally seizing an opportunity. I'm not trying to diminish what he did in 2010 because he had a great season.

It's just his previous body of work that gives me pause. I guess I'm just as confused about the nature of the list as some of the players who voted.


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Dexter_Sinister
14 years ago
Statistically, Jennings was a top 5 receiver last year. It is kind of odd how the other players don't recognize that.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
Statistically speaking, he is a top-5 wide receiver since 2008.
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Kingkoopa
14 years ago

It is kind of odd how the other players don't recognize that.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



It's partly because he doesn't showboat and draw attention to himself and as a result he isn't always mentioned in the media in the same breath as the other guys. He also doesn't wow you with size or speed like Calvin Johnson or Andre Johnson, which means he will always be underrated IMO.

Did anyone watch the top 100 reactions show yesterday? Lloyd was an arrogant jackass, who said that Jennings argument for being 74th was weak, and he was right where he should be in comparison to the other receivers in the NFL(Jennings was ranked 14th best, despite having top 5 numbers every year). Lloyd also said, "Nobody makes the catches I do". The guy has been in the league 9 years and has had 1 1,000 yard year.


Michael Irvin stood up for Jennings though when he came on the show and said Jennings was his number 1 receiver, since he made his catches when they mattered and he helped lead his team to a championship.

But, frankly, it's hard to take a list seriously, that includes a QB who was benched midway through the year, but leaves out Tramon Williams. I think the players are totally out of touch with reality.
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StoicFire
14 years ago
I thought I was done getting worked up about this list until I checked out several of Lloyd's top 2010 season highlight videos on YouTube...

"Nobody makes the catches I do"

I honestly don't know what he is talking about. His "best" video contained about 3 very good catches. The rest of the video (and I'm not exaggerating) featured roughly 75% catches on curl routes versus largely bad secondaries.

But what is perhaps more frustrating coming from a fan of a great YAC receiving corp, is that Lloyd seems to go to the ground gratuitously on the majority of his "big" catches. He could easily get more yards, but he falls over (sometimes avoiding a hit) then gets up and celebrates!!!

...

Anyway, the article sums up the whole situation very well. I just wanted to contribute these details so no one else has to suffer through his highlight videos wondering if his rank was anywhere near justified.

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porky88
14 years ago
The biggest problem with this list in general is that it was decided on by the players. Players play. I'd leave the evaluations up to GMs, coaches, and scouts. That's a list I'd like to see instead of what NFL Network decided to do.

vikesrule
14 years ago

Statistically speaking, he is a top-5 wide receiver since 2008.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Going by regular season stats for WR's, Greg Jennings hasn't even broken the top ten for years 2008-2010.

2008 - Greg Jennings ranked # 13
2009 - Greg Jennings ranked # 21
2010 - Greg Jennings ranked # 15

NFL.com WR rankings 


Zero2Cool
14 years ago

Going by regular season stats for WR's, Greg Jennings hasn't even broken the top ten for years 2008-2010.

2008 - Greg Jennings ranked # 13
2009 - Greg Jennings ranked # 21
2010 - Greg Jennings ranked # 15

NFL.com WR rankings 


Originally Posted by: vikesrule 




WR are ranked by receptions over yards?


Yards
2010 - 4
2009 - 14
2008 - 6

Touchdowns
2010 - 15
2009 - 21
2008 - 7


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vikesrule
14 years ago

WR are ranked by receptions over yards?


Yards
2010 - 4
2009 - 14
2008 - 6

Touchdowns
2010 - 15
2009 - 21
2008 - 7

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


My bad, I'll buy that

But for 2010, Jennings is still behind Brandon Lloyd no matter how you look at it.
And his 2 fumbles did not help either
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