Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

how he said it and being sarcastic as hell was.

"Pack93z" wrote:



Except I wasn't being sarcastic. I was being serious. A number of people on this site have proposed giving rings to both Kampman and Green in the (at that time hypothetical) case that the Packers won it all.

So I really do wonder: If a ring is extended to Harris, where should the line be drawn? Both of the other aforementioned players helped the Packers get to the playoff last year.

The point raised about Harris choosing to sign with another team instead of go on IR was an interesting and valid one I hadn't considered before.
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dhazer
14 years ago
I say yes you offer it to him just out of respect, he could of very easily blasted the Packers for him busting his ass and them not activating him for games, but he didn't he took out a huge ad to thank everyone. You don't think he was talking with the younger players and giving them advice. He was basically a coach to some of them guys I bet. And guess what coaches get rings. I say you offer it to him out of respect for the things he did do this year.

The guy came back from having his damn spleen removed to try and help the team when he could have just sat back and said oh well, just give me my money as I sit here and do nothing.

What did Ryan Grant do for us this year? Or even Finley?
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago

he could of very easily blasted the Packers for him busting his ass and them not activating him for games, but he didn't he took out a huge ad to thank everyone.

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True, and the Packers could simply have stashed him on IR and ended his season right there (which is what I think they should have done), but instead they gave him every opportunity to recuperate and rehabilitate on team property with team staff and resources. They gave him the opportunity to demonstrate his ability to contribute on the team after the PUP period was up. For whatever reason, they didn't believe he had shown that potential. Then again instead of stashing him on IR, they allowed him to do what he wanted most -- pursue the opportunity to play this season -- by waiving him and letting him take offers from other teams.

They gave him every chance to chase his dreams. Not every team in the league would have done that.

I think the situation was handled well from both sides.
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14 years ago

how he said it and being sarcastic as hell was.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



Except I wasn't being sarcastic. I was being serious. A number of people on this site have proposed giving rings to both Kampman and Green in the (at that time hypothetical) case that the Packers won it all.

"Pack93z" wrote:



But I haven't and didn't in the opening post.. hence why I took it as a sarcastic remark. I didn't ask about Kampman that left via FA.. or Green whom wasn't resigned. I mentioned only Al, whom spent considerable amount of time on the 2010 roster..

Now.. where was Harris offered to be put on IR? Basically he was released when the deadline came and even commented that he guessed that Ted and Mike felt he wasn't good enough to be part of this team. I don't remember him being offer IR.

The Packers did right by Al keeping him on the roster, paying him while he rehabbed and decided long term that youth was a better option.

Completely understandable.

But his impact on this years club I think are being discounted.

I am not demanding he be given a ring.. I was just querying about it and why I could support it.

Nothing more than a ring of honor type thing.. or being included in the Packer HOF... just a simple sign of respect.
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djcubez
14 years ago
I think it would be a great gesture by the Packers organization and I also think Mr. Harris would be too respectful to accept. I know he didn't play at all this year for us but he was around the team. He talked to players. But more importantly he was a part of this team ever since Rodgers was drafted. He was a veteran presence on team filled with youth. He helped this team grow into what they are today.

I don't personally think he deserves one. He didn't play in any one of our games this year. I just feel it'd be a good thing to do, knowing what Al Harris meant to this team and this town and what this team and this town meant to Al Harris. He is probably the only player not on our team that I would consider offering a ring to.

My question is, had Al Harris retired instead of signed with the Dolphins would you feel more strongly about offering him a ring?
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