Zero2Cool
14 years ago
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/02/04/super-bowl-xlv/index.html#ixzz1D2OoQ0VP 

DALLAS -- Super Bowl 45, as championship games with a taste of history attached go, is as good as it gets. In fact, it's as good as it can get. Consider:

The Packers, in their 90th year of existence, and the Steelers, in their 78th, are the two longest-running single-city franchises to appear in a Super Bowl. By far.

In the past 50 seasons, these two teams are tied for the most NFL titles, with six. That means a quarter of all NFL championships in the last two generations have been won by the two teams playing Sunday. And one of them will win the 13th, obviously.

Green Bay (21) and Pittsburgh (18) have a combined 39 Pro Football Hall of Famers, which accounts for 15 percent of all Hall members.

And the fans. As I have traveled to NFL games big and small while covering the NFL since 1984, there are three fans bases that travel and support their team like no other: Green Bay, Pittsburgh and Dallas. In 2001, in Tampa, with the Steelers playing against a Buc team that was a Super Bowl contender, the crowd was at least 40 percent black and gold; I heard rolling chants of "Here we go Steelers, here we go!''

Two weeks ago, at the NFC Championship Game at arch-rival Chicago, I was shocked to see so many cheesehead head-toppings. StubHub must have done a land-office business that day because the cost of those tickets were sky high, and no self-respecting Bear fan would sell his seat to such a hated enemy. And there's a reason the Packers did $17-million in business in their Lambeau Field Packer Pro Shop a few years back: Fans come from all over the country to worship at the Lambeau shrine. A few years ago, I walked through the parking lot and counted license plates from 26 states after a training-camp practice. Including Alaska.

The reason both of these franchises have such tremendous fan bases? Easy. Green Bay dominated the '60s, winning five championships (1961, '62, '65, '66, '67). Pittsburgh dominated the '70s, winning four (1974, '75, '78, '79). No teams have won more championships in a decade in NFL history. Extrapolate that. In the '60s, the Packers were the first team to be nationally televised consistently. Ray Scott came into most fans' living rooms every Sunday, and the Vince Lombardi ethos and stolid leadership of Bart Starr made many Americans fans of the burgeoning game. Not to mention that idea that small-town Green Bay could beat big-city New York for an NFL Championship. So even if you didn't live in Green Bay, and you lived in Santa Fe, you chose the Packers to be your team.

Same thing with Pittsburgh in the '70s, maybe in a slightly different way. When the steel mills starting shutting down, and Pittsburghers had to relocate south and west to find work, they didn't lose their love of the Steelers. "Sometimes our road games feel like home games,'' safety Ryan Clark said last year.

Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin and Green Bay's Mike McCarthy both speak about team history like they could teach it. They draw on it, too. Tomlin loves when the old guys come back, and he exhorted his team after beating Baltimore in the playoffs: "This is what we do! This is what the Steelers always have done!''

Said McCarthy this week: "The history of tradition with the Green Bay Packers is a tremendous asset for us as a football team and for us as an organization. It's something that's embraced on a daily basis. The continued support of Bart Starr and Willie Davis, personally, throughout my tenure in Green Bay, has been special. You definitely want to win this game for the Packer nation, and represent the tradition and history of the great players -- Jerry Kramer and all the way down through. It's the standard of the Green Bay Packers, it's about winning Super Bowl trophies.''

Add to that this fact: The game could end up as one of the best Super Bowls ever. That guarantees nothing, of course. But look at what will be on display Sunday: two of the top seven quarterbacks in football, two of the best young coaches, two of the best defensive coordinators (one who's in the Hall of Fame) of the generation, big defensive stars who may be bronzed in Canton one day. It's 60 hours before the game as I write this, and I can legitimately say I can't wait for kickoff.

"It's time for the Lombardi Trophy to go back home,'' McCarthy said this week.

Well, either home to Green Bay or to Lombardi's summer home, where it has spent so much time, at the confluence of the Allegheny and the Monongahela rivers.

"Peter King" wrote:


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Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
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Martha Careful (1-Apr) : Too bad camera's can't spot the ball as well.
Mucky Tundra (1-Apr) : So will the chain gang be gone completely or will they still be around as a backup or whatever?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : The method for measuring first downs in the NFL will switch from chain gangs to camera-based technology in 2025, the league announced.
Martha Careful (1-Apr) : A big step in the right direction. Just put in the college system is very very good.
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : NFL has passed a rule that allows both teams to possess the ball in OT during the regular season
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Martha Careful (30-Mar) : Is men braiding their hair a new style thing? Watching the NCAA men's tournament many players have done
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beast (29-Mar) : Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (29-Mar) : sure is
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earthquake (27-Mar) : Which seemed strange to my 9 year old self, that you could be a fan for a team other than the one you play for
earthquake (27-Mar) : Nothing eventful happened, other than it being clear that he was a bengals fan
earthquake (27-Mar) : And we went and hung out with him one afternoon, I must have been 9 or so
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Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : Only career highspot was a 200 yard rushing game while playing for the Cardinals
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Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (25-Mar) : I don't think there is a significant difference. I use a user name for many. Others email.
Martha Careful (25-Mar) : email
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