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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/30/the-packers-really-are-better-on-turf/ 

There are many themes that will be repeated in the buildup to the Super Bowl to the point of becoming cliches.

The Steelers have the edge in Super Bowl experience. The Packers have the edge because the game is being played indoors.

Just because they are cliches, however, doesnt mean they are true. In an excellent post for ESPN.com, Kevin Seifert breaks down how much better the Packers offense has been indoors.

Aaron Rodgers Packers offense has averaged 31.8 points-per-game since 2008 indoors. They scored over 40 in their two playoff games indoors. Rodgers has 26 touchdowns, five interceptions, and averaged 8.6 yards-per-attempt.

The Packers played well three out of four times indoors in 2010, but they also had their worst game of the season in Detroit. (Rodgers left in the second quarter with a concussion.)

I mean, you go from playing in Chicago in January, late January, to Dallas and they close you inside a dome, wide receiver Greg Jennings said. You cant do anything but smile. Obviously the surface is going to be perfect. The atmosphere is going to be unmatched.

You can just smile. Its going to be exciting. Obviously we play well inside.

Playing inside doesnt mean that Green Bay will win because it helps their precision passing attack so much. But the conditions certainly dont hurt.

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SINCITYCHEEZE
13 years ago
No longer do we have to fear the domes.How refreshing.
Wisconsin Born, Packer Bred
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Greg C.
13 years ago
I think the dome disadvantage was fading even during Favre's later years in Green Bay. I think the Packers and other teams have figured out how to win in domes. But what's exciting is that they have actually played better in domes than on natural turf in recent years. They are comfortable in that setting. I'll take it.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I don't think the roof matters. I think it's the playing surface. I think there's only two playing surfaces that are carpet on concrete now where as 15 years ago, I believe there was nearly a dozen.
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13 years ago

No longer do we have to fear the domes.How refreshing.

"SINCITYCHEEZE" wrote:



Or the ridiculously high crown on the old Dallas field.
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kobe16
13 years ago
I hope this proves to be an advantage come sunday.
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peteralan71
13 years ago

I think the dome disadvantage was fading even during Favre's later years in Green Bay. I think the Packers and other teams have figured out how to win in domes. But what's exciting is that they have actually played better in domes than on natural turf in recent years. They are comfortable in that setting. I'll take it.

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I agree. I think that the reason we were starting to get better in domes during the end of the Favre era was because he was much more affected by the cold. He started off having an unbeleivable record when it was below 30 degrees, but his last few years, those numbers started to dwindle. You could tell that he was hurting and moving slowly against the Giants in the NFC CG, and the second half of his season with the Jets--when it was starting to get cold--was MUCH worse than his first half.

Obviously, all of the above, talking about Favre, does not affect the rest of the players and the defense. I think that we have become a better indoor team because we have gone from a team like the Steelers--hard-nosed and strong--to a very speedy and shifty team. Our players are almost all very quick laterally, and the footing indoors is much more compliant for that type of gameplay than it is outdoors.
Green Bay: Home of the Green & Gold. And the hunter orange. And the camouflage.
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yooperfan
13 years ago
" Speed kills" and the Packers have the speed to be effective in dome conditions.
I love this matchup!
13 years ago

I don't think the roof matters. I think it's the playing surface. I think there's only two playing surfaces that are carpet on concrete now where as 15 years ago, I believe there was nearly a dozen.

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I think it does matter, at least a little. Rodgers throws a better ball than just about anyone out there, so wind or any other conditions that affect passing negatively generally hurts us more than it does an inferior passing team. It evens the playing field a little, unless we are playing against another elite passing team.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

I don't think the roof matters. I think it's the playing surface. I think there's only two playing surfaces that are carpet on concrete now where as 15 years ago, I believe there was nearly a dozen.

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I think it does matter, at least a little. Rodgers throws a better ball than just about anyone out there, so wind or any other conditions that affect passing negatively generally hurts us more than it does an inferior passing team. It evens the playing field a little, unless we are playing against another elite passing team.

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Wind doesn't effect a quarterback's throws as much as one would think. When it his 15mph+ then it does on deeper throws that are touch throws. A guy with a rocket arm who gets low trajectory on his throws, won't effect him much.
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