Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

Diane Warren: 'I've never been in love'
 

Diane Warren is pop's go-to woman for power ballads and the writer of this year's UK Eurovision entry. But why do her own songs make her feel sick?

Caroline Sullivan
The Guardian, Thursday 14 May 2009

UserPostedImage
A year ago, Diane Warren knew almost nothing about the Eurovision song contest, something most Americans (if they have even heard of it) consider a bizarre rite best left to nations the other side of the Atlantic.

But this weekend, Jade Ewen will be singing one of Warren's songs as the UK Eurovision entry - My Time, with music by Andrew Lloyd Webber. Warren is one of America's most successful songwriters: she wrote Toni Braxton's Un-Break My Heart and Celine Dion's Because You Loved Me. Earlier this year, she took a week out of a busy schedule to write her Eurovision song in London, and we meet in an absurdly chic hotel soon afterwards.

"We did it quickly, a couple of days," she says of My Time. "Well, the meat of it. There are still things that need fine-tuning." Would she describe the song as a power ballad, the sort of quintessentially American song she is famous for? She balks. "I don't just do power ballads. I have a lot of uptempo stuff, too - like Can't Fight the Moonlight [the LeAnn Rimes hit]. I do Latin, I incorporate some rap rhythms. It's funny how people tend to bag you as one thing."

But her ballads - massive, emotional and usually delivered by singers who sound on the verge of tears - are Warren's most memorable compositions. And even the uptempo numbers she's referring to - Starship's Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now, Cher's If I Could Turn Back Time - have the same heroically huge quality. Warren, who had her first hit in 1983 with Laura Branigan's Solitaire, doesn't do subtle.

Nine of her songs have been nominated for Grammys and six for Academy awards, and while it's hard to quantify Warren's exact sales, it's enough to earn her up to $20m a year in royalties. "That's in a good year," she adds. In a bad year - well, she can still afford the expensive cars she has a passion for, and run two LA homes.

A native Californian despite her east-coast Jewish mindset ("I'm totally an east-coast person, energetic and sarcastic. I'm not a nice LA person"), she writes using piano and guitar in a Sunset Boulevard office she calls "the cave". "It's very dirty, so I'm probably immune to every disease. I thrive on squalor."

Warren is very funny, not at all what you expect from the author of so much racked balladry. She is even a fan of the English songwriter Brian Higgins, whose sparkling hits for Girls Aloud are the polar opposite of her widescreen work. Does she have a theory about why Americans are such fans of we-made-it-through-the-storm epics - while the Brits are more partial to quirkiness, to new sounds?

She looks dubious. "The British like ballads, too. Leona Lewis?" Yes, but Lewis was groomed to sound as American as possible, so that she stood the best chance of making it there. (Inevitably, Warren is slated to work with Lewis in the nearish future.) "Mmm. I don't know. I guess it's because the UK charts are much more open, and you play lots of different stuff, and our radio is more rigidly formatted. But a big song is international. It doesn't have boundaries."

Amazingly, Warren says she has never been in love: she hasn't had a relationship in 17 years. "I've never been in love like in my songs. I'm not like normal people. I'm no good at relationships. I draw drama to me - it's the Jew in me." So how can she write about it? "I have a good imagination. Look, I know what it feels like to have a broken heart. I know what it feels like to feel something for somebody. I'm just too weird to be in a relationship."

She has never felt the need to be close to another human being? "If I do feel the need, it passes - thank God. Why do I want to wake up with someone and talk to them? Yeuch. It's like when I wrote for Aerosmith [on their No 1 single I Don't Want to Miss a Thing], 'I could stay awake just to hear you breathing ... '" She makes a disgusted face. "If someone was listening to me breathing all night, I'd throw them out the window. Preferably a high-rise. Why would I want someone to listen to me breathe?"

Instead, she shares her Hollywood Hills home with a cat and a parrot - "both aloof animals". But does the lady protest too much? Isn't she actually a romantic at heart? "I am an incredible romantic. That's why I'm always so cynical and sarcastic. I am a bruised romantic." So the songs are an outlet for that side of herself? "Yeah. Probably."

She is travelling with a friend, the vice-president of her music publishing company, who reminds her that she has a meeting with Lloyd Webber to get to. "Don't be a buzz-kill," Warren says, grinning.



This story just boggles me. Diana Warren IS pop music. If you can think of a major pop hit to come out in the past 20 years, she probably wrote it. she was the first person ever to have 7 hits on the chart at the same time. Yet she's incapable of holding down a relationship herself. She's been compared to Emily Dickinson: reclusive yet prolific, totally dedicated to her art.

It's so weird to think that the person who has written more than any other about being love claims to have never been in love herself. As George Carlin liked to say: "Scratch any cynic, and you'll find a disappointed idealist."
UserPostedImage
zombieslayer
13 years ago
Goes to show what I've said all along - pop music is all bullshit.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. πŸ‡ΉπŸ‡Ή πŸ‡²πŸ‡² πŸ‡¦πŸ‡·
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
13 years ago
no...it shows that art/creativitydoes not have to be based on personal experience.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
13 years ago
on the other hand... i never heard of diane warren until i saw this topic.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
zombieslayer
13 years ago

no...it shows that art/creativitydoes not have to be based on personal experience.

"Wade" wrote:



OK fine. Then let me rephrase - pop music should really be called fantasy as it has no basis in reality. I'll be sure to bring that up the next time some moronic pop music nazi cuts down Metal for all the fantasy references.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. πŸ‡ΉπŸ‡Ή πŸ‡²πŸ‡² πŸ‡¦πŸ‡·
IronMan
13 years ago
Love is a chocolate covered turd; once the chocolate wears off....
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
13 years ago
Er...whatever is wrong with fantasy, that's what I want to know.

The question shouldn't be fantasy v. reality...it should be "good v bad".

of course I have two sheena easton albums and one marie osmond album ... so what do i know. πŸ™‚
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
DakotaT
13 years ago
Fantasy is good, that's why I never understood the grunge movement in metal music or reality fckng television. Entertainment should take you away from the rigors of life, not remind you of them.
UserPostedImage
zombieslayer
13 years ago
Nothing is wrong with fantasy. I love fantasy. I'm just tired of the double standard. Pop music people use fantasy as a demeaning word against Metal whereas their music is complete fantasy. For one, the one singing it NEVER writes the music. For another, now we know the woman who wrote all these songs has never been in love herself.

This is kind of along the lines of people are anti-hunting, yet they're chomping away on meat.
My man Donald Driver
UserPostedImage
(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. πŸ‡ΉπŸ‡Ή πŸ‡²πŸ‡² πŸ‡¦πŸ‡·
Wade
  • Wade
  • Veteran Member
13 years ago
as an aside: I love her line in the quoted piece,

"It's very dirty, so I'm probably immune to every disease. I thrive on squalor."
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Mucky Tundra (1h) : Happy Birthday wpr!
    Zero2Cool (2h) : Anders Carlson ... released by 49ers
    dfosterf (5h) : Happy Birthday!😊😊😊
    wpr (6h) : Thanks Kevin.
    Zero2Cool (8h) : Happy Birthday, Wayne! πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‚πŸ₯³
    beast (8h) : Edge Rushers is the same... it's not the 4-3 vs 3-4 change, it's the Hafley's version of the 4-3... as all 32 teams are actually 4-2
    Zero2Cool (6-Nov) : OLB to DE and player requests trade. Yet folks say they are same.
    beast (5-Nov) : In other news, the Green Bay Packers have signed Zero2Cool to update their website πŸ˜‹ jk
    beast (5-Nov) : Might just re-sign the kicker we got
    beast (5-Nov) : Are there any kickers worth drafting next year?
    Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : Preston Smith for Malik Willis
    Mucky Tundra (5-Nov) : Getting a 7th rounder from the Stillers
    Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : At least we get 7th round pick now!! HELLO NEW KICKER
    Mucky Tundra (5-Nov) : Steelers getting a premier lockdown corner!
    Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : Packers are trading edge rusher Preston Smith to the Pittsburgh Steelers, per sources.
    Mucky Tundra (5-Nov) : Preston Smith traded to the Steelers!!!!
    Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : CB Marshon Lattimore to Commanders
    Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : Bears are sending RB Khalil Herbert to the Bengals, per sources.
    Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : ZaDarius Smith continues his "north" tour.
    Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : Let the Chiefs trade a 5th for him
    Zero2Cool (5-Nov) : Nearing 30, large contract, nope.
    Martha Careful (5-Nov) : any interest in Marshon Lattimore?
    Zero2Cool (4-Nov) : What does NFL do if they're over cap?
    Mucky Tundra (4-Nov) : They've been able to constantly push it out through extensions, void years etc but they're in the hole by 72 million next year I believe
    hardrocker950 (4-Nov) : Seems the Saints are always in cap hell
    Mucky Tundra (4-Nov) : Saints HC job is not an envious one; gonna be in cap hell for 3 years
    Mucky Tundra (4-Nov) : Dennis Allen has now been fired twice mid-season with Derek Carr as his starting QB
    Zero2Cool (4-Nov) : Kuhn let go
    beast (4-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers would have any interest in Z. Smith, probably not
    Zero2Cool (4-Nov) : Shefter says Browns and Lions will figure out how to get a deal done for Za'Darius Smith..
    Zero2Cool (4-Nov) : Packers are more likely to have 1,000 yard rusher than 4,000 yard passer
    Zero2Cool (3-Nov) : It's raining hard.
    Zero2Cool (3-Nov) : Packers inactives vs. Lions: CB Jaire Alexander S Evan Williams C Josh Myers Non-injury inactives: WR Malik Heath OL Travis Glover DE Bren
    packerfanoutwest (3-Nov) : Malik Willis: My focus is helping the Packers win, not proving I can start elsewhere. But he could
    Zero2Cool (1-Nov) : I had Texans, but the loss of another WR flipped me
    wpr (1-Nov) : I thought about taking the Jets but they've been a disaster. Losing to the Pats last week
    Zero2Cool (1-Nov) : Surprised more didn't pick Jets in Pick'em.
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
    Vikings
    Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
    BEARS
    Recent Topics
    6-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    6-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    6-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    6-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    6-Nov / Around The NFL / Mucky Tundra

    6-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    5-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    5-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    5-Nov / Featured Content / Zero2Cool

    5-Nov / GameDay Threads / Cheesey

    5-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    5-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    5-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    4-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    2-Nov / Around The NFL / wpr

    Headlines
    Copyright Β© 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.comβ„’. All Rights Reserved.