Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

Cable reveals US behind airstrike that killed 21 children in Yemen 

By Eric W. Dolan
Thursday, December 2nd, 2010 -- 12:46 pm

[img_r]http://cdn.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Yemen-cluster-bomb-300x168.jpg[/img_r] A diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks shows that the US military covered up the killing of dozens of civilians during a cruise missile strike in south Yemen in December 2009.

The secret cable from January 2010 corroborated images released earlier this year by Amnesty International, implicating the US in the use of cluster bombs. The cable was sent by Yemen's President Ali Abdullah Saleh to US General David Petraeus, saying his government would "continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours."

According to the cable, this prompted Yemeni Deputy Prime Minister Rashad al-Alimi "to joke that he had just 'lied' by telling Parliament that the bombs in Arhab, Abyan, and Shebwa were American-made but deployed by the ROYG [Republic of Yemen Government]."

"The cable appears to confirm Amnesty International's finding that the Abyan strike was carried out by the US military, not Yemeni government forces," Philip Luther, a Deputy Director for Amnesty International, said.

On December 17, 2009, an alleged al-Qaeda training camp in Abyan was hit by a cruise missile, killing 41 local residents, including 14 women, 21 children, and 14 alleged al-Qaeda members.

According to the leaked cable, President Saleh praised the strikes, "but said that 'mistakes were made' in the killing of civilians in Abyan." Gen. Petraeus responded that only three civilians, the wife and two children of an al-Qaeda member, were killed.

After the attack, Amnesty International requested information from the Pentagon about US involvement in the missile attack, but received no response. The Pentagon later released a statement saying that questions on operations against al-Qaeda should be posed to the Yemeni government.

The leaked cable revealed that Gen. Petraeus proposed abandoning the use of cruise missiles and instead using fixed-wing bombers circling outside of Yemeni territory to strike at targets using precision-guided bombs "when actionable intelligence became available." The proposal was welcomed by President Saleh.

Security assistance to Yemen may substantially increase, if Gen. Petraeus has his way.

"The General told Saleh that he had requested USD 150 million in security assistance for 2010, a substantial increase over the 2009 amount of USD 67 million," the cable states.

Amnesty International is calling on the US to investigate the use of drones by US forces for targeted killings of individuals in Yemen.

"There must be an immediate investigation into the dozens of deaths of local residents in the Abyan air strike, including into the extent of US involvement," Luther said. "Those responsible for unlawful killings must be brought to justice."

US Attorney General Eric Holder said WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is currently under investigation and would be pursued if he were found to have broken the law.

Republican Congressman Peter King, the incoming chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, went so far as to say that the website should be deemed a "foreign terrorist organization."

Rep. King's call for prosecution was echoed by Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Clair McCaskill (D-MO) and former State Department official Liz Cheney.

"We're deeply skeptical that prosecuting WikiLeaks would be constitutional, or a good idea," Hina Shamsi, Director of the ACLU National Security Project, said. "The courts have made clear that the First Amendment protects independent third parties who publish classified information. Prosecuting WikiLeaks would be no different from prosecuting the media outlets that also published classified documents."

"Prosecuting publishers of classified information threatens investigative journalism that is necessary to an informed public debate about government conduct, and that is an unthinkable outcome."



This kind of shit makes me grind my teeth. Why does the government of a supposedly free country have so much to hide? What is it we're so afraid of? If our cause is so transparently just, why do we have to cloak it in deception?

On a related note, in my German class today, a number of us were discussing the fact that anyone who has spent time in Germany quickly realizes that Germans enjoy an amazing amount of true freedom on the street (where it counts) and that the United States has without question become a police state by comparison. The government and law enforcement agencies of this country view everyone -- including our own citizens -- with suspicion, distrust, and a harsh hand (and we have plenty of people who complain it's not harsh enough), while Germany chooses to treat people with the novel concepts of tolerance and respect (though of course at times beleaguered with stodgy bureaucratic inefficiency). The harsh lessons of World War II remain vividly implanted in the minds of Germans, and they are doing their utmost never to repeat those mistakes, whereas Americans seem ever more eager to trade their freedoms for a sop at the table of totalitarianism.
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Formo
13 years ago
Good stuff, Rourke.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
By the way, before anyone brings up the argument that Wikileaks endangers government informants and sources, I understand that. That's not the issue I'm addressing. I'm talking about deliberately lying about the provenance of operations and foisting public responsibility for them on our supposed allies. If our tactics and causes could truly withstand scrutiny, we wouldn't have to resort to such devious devices.

I'd rather my country followed the advice of George Washington: "Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the rest is in the hands of God."
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Porforis
13 years ago
To be fair, I'm fairly skeptical that we're any more dishonest and two faced than any other country. The biggest thing that pisses me off about the people that support this release and treat Assange like a hero (not saying that you are one) is that they're operating under the assumption that Assange would pursue and release classified information from the likes of Russia, China, and Iran. You're only pursuing truth if you're not focusing all your attention on one variety of truth, by singling out the United States you are creating the illusion that the United States is the only country with these types of secrets.

If every country would release this stuff? I'd be a lot more in favor of it. Just one country? Just enables others to point and act outraged while doing the same stuff behind the scenes.
Rockmolder
13 years ago
I'm absolutely fascinated by Wikileaks. It was on Dutch TV last night. They had an internet journalist and "computer nerd" who's submerged himself into this stuff pretty deep explain everything. It's nearly unreal. Both the information and how the site itsself works and is kept in the air.

The covering up part is the bad part. I can imagine that some innocent casualties will be made, as sad as that is, but to then cover it all up...
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I think Eisenhower's farewell address is apropos here.

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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

they're operating under the assumption that Assange would pursue and release classified information from the likes of Russia, China, and Iran.

"Porforis" wrote:



Actually, Assange has promised a release sometime in 2011 containing compromising information from Russia. He has been publishing documents from China (at great risk to his informants, I might add) for some time now. Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadenijad recently condemned Assange for making Iran look bad with these cable leaks. Australia has tried repeatedly to take legal action against him. Sweden raided his headquarters after he leaked information they considered compromising. A major bank in Iceland obtained a legal injunction against him after he released information indicating it was in a precarious state ahead of the collapse of the Icelandic banking collapse. And these are just the first stories that come to mind.

It's unfair to say that Assange has targeted specifically the United States. It's just that we squawk the loudest when our tail gets burned.

So to summarize, they killed 49 civilians of whom 21 were children, then knowingly lied about it and covered it up... and yet tonight on TV in the USA the talking point is whether to bust Assange for espionage (which is ridiculously being touted as sensible) or terrorism i.e. by Sarah Palin (which is correctly being assessed as certifiable). What happened to American TV... did it ever have real journalists working for their news channels?

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4PackGirl
13 years ago
we know too much already. people were far more content when we had alot less media & their 'world' was contained to a much smaller area. i don't give a patoot what goes on in other countries, if it was covered up, wasn't covered up, who did it, or anything else. i have a decent life. i do NOT live in a 'police state', i have all the freedom i want, i pay my taxes, & love my family. for those of you who dislike this country so much, you are free to leave at any time. i'm not happy with the direction we're going in but that includes the entire world - not just the united states. you think we're corrupt here - try mexico on for size.
Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
In many ways, Mexico has become a state only in name. It's a government beholden (perhaps in some cases even hostage) to drug cartels.

Actually, that's the reason why Mexico is pissed with Assange right now: some of those cables revealed that Mexican officials are afraid the war against the cartels has already been lost.

And yes, in many ways we are a police state. I never realized it myself until had I gone abroad and experienced what it's like in Germany. I've never liked the cops (due to the atrocious way they treated homeschoolers when I was growing up), but until then even I had never grasped how overtly hostile and aggressive the police in this country are toward the populace -- a classic symptom of a law-enforcement force gone amok.

I resent the notion that people who are critical of this country should just leave it instead of working to improve it. Just because you have all the freedom you want doesn't mean the rest of us should be content with the vestiges we have left. I felt far freer in historically statist Germany than I ever do in the supposedly democratic "land of the free." There are plenty of things I could do freely in Germany that would land me in jail here, whereas the only things I couldn't do in Germany that I could do here were render the Nazi salute, utter the words "Heil Hitler!," display Nazi insignia, or carry a handgun on the street -- none of which I would do anyway. That disparity troubles me on many levels.

"Unconditional and highest freedom of will comes from obedience . . . obedience which is prepared to render each and every sacrifice to pride, to external honour and to all which is dear to us personally, obedience which never falters but unconditionally follows every order which comes from the Fhrer or legally from superiors." -- Heinrich Himmler, Reichsfhrer of the SS



I hope that isn't the kind of philosophy we want guiding our nation, a nation that was founded on revolt against absolute power.
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4PackGirl
13 years ago
you've had bad experiences with cops - i've had nothing but good. there are assholes in EVERY profession known to man. if you wanna be a cop & get away with anything & everything, move to peoria. this place is corrupt beyond belief but there ARE good cops here.

our freedoms allow us to be on this site making these kinds of discussions without worry that we'll be jailed or killed. this could not happen in other countries.
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