Zero2Cool
14 years ago
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Green Bay There was some pep in their step as the Green Bay Packers returned to practice Monday following their bye week.

Coming off three straight victories, rested and healthier than they've been in weeks, the Packers (6-3) control their destiny in the NFC North and are looking forward to playing meaningful games in cold weather.

"There's nothing like November and December football," said coach Mike McCarthy. "I think this is what it's all about. This is what you come together in March and prepare for.

"Everything we want to accomplish is right in front of us."

Some 275 miles to the west, winter arrived in Minneapolis over the weekend in the form of 6 to 10 inches of snow - the biggest pre-Thanksgiving snowstorm in nearly 20 years.

Another early arrival: a winter of discontent.

The Minnesota Vikings, picked by many to win the NFC North, are 3-6 and coming off a dispiriting 27-13 loss to the Chicago Bears. They are a team in turmoil, with an embattled coach in Brad Childress, a beat-up quarterback in Brett Favre and a locker room filled with dissension and doubt.

Just about nothing has gone right for the Vikings, most notably a failed four-game experiment with malcontent receiver Randy Moss that cost the team a third-round draft pick.

Some Vikings players reportedly have turned on Childress, who called out Favre for throwing three interceptions in a 28-24 loss to the Packers on Oct. 24 and reportedly nearly came to blows with Percy Harvin after questioning the receiver's effort at a recent practice.

"We know that Childress doesn't have our backs, so why should we have his?" one player said in a story in the Chicago Sun-Times.

Packers linebacker A.J. Hawk said he had never been in a locker room in which the players turned on their coach.

"I've had a ton of respect for all the coaches I've had growing up and even now," Hawk said. "It would have to get pretty bad for that to happen, but I don't doubt anything. Nothing would surprise me."

And so, two teams heading in opposite directions prepare for a Sunday showdown at the Metrodome. The Packers, installed as early three-point favorites, are trying not to pay attention to the drama unfolding daily in Eden Prairie.

But they watch TV, too.

"At this point you really can't help it," said nose tackle B.J. Raji. "Every time you turn on ESPN there's something going on. It's just crazy because I know the talent on that team isn't indicative of what their record is. Talent-wise, they're not 3-6.

"But it's up to them to turn their season around. I can't worry about that."

Childress said after the loss to the Bears that he was aware many Vikings fans were calling for him to be fired.

"It's not something you're happy to deal with, but you deal with what's out there," he said. "My name's behind the Vikings team and it all starts with me."

McCarthy said he watched the Bears-Vikings game and chose his words carefully when asked if the Vikings looked like a different team from the one that showed up at Lambeau last month.

"Well, they look . . . they're a different team in my opinion on grass than they are on turf," he said. "I think playing up in the dome is a really big advantage for them with the crowd noise. I thought schematically how they're playing, they're doing a lot of similar things."

Perhaps, but they're not doing them as well.

Adrian Peterson, the NFL's second-leading rusher, gained a season-low 51 yards against the Bears. Favre, hobbled by ankle, foot and shoulder injuries, threw for just 170 yards and added three interceptions to bring his league-leading total to 16.

Favre has been a shell of the quarterback who threw 33 touchdown passes and just seven interceptions and finished with a 107.2 passer rating in 2009. He has completed only one pass of 40 or more yards this year and ranks 31st in passer rating at 72.2.

ESPN reported Monday that Favre expected to have an MRI on his right shoulder after experiencing pain Saturday, but Childress said team trainers spoke to Favre and determined he wouldn't need the test.

Childress said he expected Favre to make his 295th consecutive regular-season start against Green Bay.

The Packers expect nothing less than Favre's best. The quarterback limped off the field at Lambeau to loud boos last month and probably wants to win the rematch as much as any game he's ever played.

"If he is going to play his best against anybody, or try to play his best against anybody, it's going to be us," Raji said. "I'm sure he's had this one circled on the calendar."

Said defensive end Howard Green, "He's going to bring it, especially against us. He still has some skills left. He's going to come out there and let it all hang out."

The Packers need to win to keep pace with the 6-3 Bears, who play at Miami on Thursday night. Though it might be too late for the Vikings to salvage their season, the Packers don't expect them to lie down Sunday.

"Watching them on film, they definitely haven't quit," Hawk said. "They haven't given up on anything. When it comes down to it, regardless of how they feel about anybody on the team or the coaches, they still have pride in themselves as players and competitors.

"They're going to come out and give it their best shot."


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LambeauEast
14 years ago
Yeah, I see a "what have we got to lose" mentality coming from the Queens Sunday...on top of the usual Packer/Queens stuff.
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Nonstopdrivel
14 years ago
What's disturbing to me isn't that Favre's quarterback rating is 31st in the league. What's disturbing to me is that there is a starting quarterback in this league with a lower rating than Favre's.
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Yerko
14 years ago

Said defensive end Howard Green, "He's going to bring it, especially against us. He still has some skills left. He's going to come out there and let it all hang out."

"Zero2Cool" wrote:



Like he did with Jen Sterger? :thumbleft:

Can the Packers get ANOTHER head coach fired after this week? The Vikings didn't look like themselves at all last Sunday. They made the Bears look good. Grass or not, they played well in Lambeau.

Even though the VIkings ship is sinking, I have a feeling this is going to be a close one still. Playing anyone in the division scares the piss out of me and if one team can carry us opposite of the direction we are currently going, its the damn Vikings.
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Greg C.
14 years ago

Said defensive end Howard Green, "He's going to bring it, especially against us. He still has some skills left. He's going to come out there and let it all hang out."

"G-Force" wrote:



Like he did with Jen Sterger? :thumbleft:

Can the Packers get ANOTHER head coach fired after this week? The Vikings didn't look like themselves at all last Sunday. They made the Bears look good. Grass or not, they played well in Lambeau.

Even though the VIkings ship is sinking, I have a feeling this is going to be a close one still. Playing anyone in the division scares the piss out of me and if one team can carry us opposite of the direction we are currently going, its the damn Vikings.

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Nice catch on the Howard Green quote, +1. I agree that the Vikings will play their best on Sunday, and it will be a close game. What's nice is that even if they win, they are still two games behind, and possibly three games behind the Bears if the Bears win on Thursday. Being that far behind two teams with only six games left would still be a very tough situation for them.

It would be so much fun for the Packers to knock out the Cowboys' and Vikings' coaches in the same season--consecutive games, even! But mostly, of course, I just want a win.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Why the hell would we want Childress out?
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coltonja
14 years ago

What's disturbing to me isn't that Favre's quarterback rating is 31st in the league. What's disturbing to me is that there is a starting quarterback in this league with a lower rating than Favre's.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



LOL hilarious +1, sir.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago

What's disturbing to me isn't that Favre's quarterback rating is 31st in the league. What's disturbing to me is that there is a starting quarterback in this league with a lower rating than Favre's.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



The three players listed with a lower QB Rating ...

Derek Anderson Cardinals
Matt Moore Panthers
Jimmy Clausen Panthers


Is it really that big of a surprise?
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Greg C.
14 years ago

Why the hell would we want Childress out?

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Childress will get what he deserves, sooner or later. I think it would be neat to see him fired after a loss to the Packers. It would give the win some historical value. I'm certainly not going to cheer for the Vikings to win games just so Childress stays.
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peteralan71
14 years ago

What's disturbing to me isn't that Favre's quarterback rating is 31st in the league. What's disturbing to me is that there is a starting quarterback in this league with a lower rating than Favre's.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



LOL good stuff. I just can't comprehend the changes that have taken place from last year to this year. It is unfrickinreal! I felt for awhile that he would come out of this slump, but after his press conference last week, it is clear that the guy is really starting to give up. The one thing left that I feel may give him ANOTHER youthful boost is the reappearance of Sydney Rice. Look out for that. Regardless, they will not win the division, which makes me warm and cozy inside :)

I have been studying Neuro Rehab all day long, and your post made me laugh out loud. For that, you are awarded +1.
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