nerdmann
14 years ago
I heard on the postgame show that Chilly called out Favre in his post game conference. Anyone hear that or got a clip? Be interesting to hear what he said. I guess Favre was pretty down after the game. He's probably going to lose half of his worldly possessions in the near future.
Pelissero says Chilly thought about benching Favre.
http://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/28660553864 
Childress said he considered pulling Favre after 2nd interception, but Favre said he wasn't approached about it.
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Greg C.
14 years ago
Trent Dilfer was making a big deal out of this on ESPN, but I'm not sure it's going to be a big deal. Childress said something about how "we" need to make better decisions and throw to the open receiver (referring to a play where Favre did not notice an open receiver) and not throw pick-sixes. It was something along those lines. When Favre was asked afterwards about the first comment by Childress, he said that Childress was correct. He wasn't asked about the second comment. I'm not so sure this will be a big controversy, at least not by Favre standards.
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Cheesey
14 years ago
Chilly might say that......but i doubt that he has the nads to actually pull Favre out.
Kind of "the roaring lion". Makes alot of noise, but does nothing.
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nerdmann
14 years ago

Chilly might say that......but i doubt that he has the nads to actually pull Favre out.
Kind of "the roaring lion". Makes alot of noise, but does nothing.

"Cheesey" wrote:





Ha ha, Favre would fire him on the spot.
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RaiderPride
14 years ago
This season is going to end sorid for the Vikings organization.

Chilly will be gone at the end of the year, Brett will be gone before that, and it is a sure bet Randy will stop giving 100%. It is their own fault. They set the tone in the room by allowing Favre to be a whore for his own personal need for attention and love for the love the Vikings organization were giving him.

I actually feel sorry for the loyal, good, fine, long time Viking Fans. The families that have been season ticket holders for so very long. They are good people. I have met many.
""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
Porforis
14 years ago

Chilly might say that......but i doubt that he has the nads to actually pull Favre out.
Kind of "the roaring lion". Makes alot of noise, but does nothing.

"nerdmann" wrote:





Ha ha, Favre would fire him on the spot.

"Cheesey" wrote:



lol +1
Formo
14 years ago
I don't think it'll end that way, RP. I know it's your pipe dream, but it'll stay that way. The Vikings have a long, tough road, they are in the process of getting through it. They have an offense that's just millimeters away from clicking (starts at the line), they have some players that'll be coming back from injuries hopefully soon (Rice), and eventually that talent on defense will start clicking too.

Whether or not they'll start putting things together soon enough to make the playoffs, that's another story.

But I don't see this team imploding like you guys would all love.

That all being said.. Chilly definitely should call out Favre. Favre played like pooh tonight. What's sad is the Vikes were still in the game until the final seconds. If Favre played ANY better, then the game's outcome is completely different.
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nerdmann
14 years ago
http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/videos/Childress-Presser---1024/70393691-7c51-4a32-98ef-a64246632005 

That's the presser. Haven't seen it yet, gonna wait till after postgame. I guess Chilly's blaming the refs now.


http://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/28662275772 
Childress opened his press conference by crucifying the officials for overturning Shiancoe's TD. I'll post full quote in a bit, but the end:

http://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/28662297560 
"If the litmus is 50 drunks in a bar those 50 drunks say thats a catch and 50 writers in this room, you may be drunk too ... its a catch."
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DakotaT
14 years ago
Yeah Nerdman, that's good stuff by Chilly. A professional loses with dignity. Shiancoe's attempt at a catch was overturned because he did not have his hands under the ball, and when the ball hit the ground it moved up his arm. Whether he controlled it or not was irrelevant.

Quarless' touchdown should have been overturned too, but I guess Chilly was conservative with his challenge flags.
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nerdmann
14 years ago
http://1500espn.com/sportswire/Notebook_Brad_Childress_furious_over_call_that_nullified_Shiancoes_TD102510 

Notebook: Brad Childress furious over call that nullified Shiancoe's TD
by Tom Pelissero



GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Minnesota Vikings coach Brad Childress was so steamed about Visanthe Shiancoe's nullified second-quarter touchdown catch he opened his postgame media conference on Sunday night with an extended rant about the call.

On first-and-10 from the Green Bay Packers' and 4 minutes, 56 seconds remaining before halftime, Shiancoe came free on a post and made a sprawling grab for what appeared to be a 17-yard touchdown.

Packers coach Mike McCarthy challenged, however, and officials ruled the pass incomplete -- even though replays appeared inconclusive at best about whether Shiancoe had possession before the tip of the ball hit the ground.

"Hard to win when you turn it over three times, one for a touchdown, and it's hard when they take touchdowns off the board," Childress said after the Minnesota Vikings' 28-24 loss to the Green Bay Packers.

"I must not understand (what constitutes a) catch in the end zone, for them to take Shiancoe's off the board. That's not the way it's taught. That's not the way we're told. That goes back to the Tampa Bay game that Tony (Dungy) coached years ago -- you control the ball, and it doesn't make any difference if you control it in your hand or forearm. Period. That's not he way it's taught at our owner's symposium, and that's wrong. That's wrong."

In all, referee Scott Green took away three touchdowns from the Vikings, but two of them were clear-cut calls. Percy Harvin stepped out of bounds before crossing the goal line in the second quarter -- Adrian Peterson scored one play later -- and had his right foot land out of bounds on what would have been a go-ahead 35-yard touchdown in the final minute.

The Shiancoe call proved costly, because the series ended with rookie halfback Toby Gerhart failing to handle a short pass on third-and-3 and Ryan Longwell kicking a field goal. Green announced the call was reverse because Shiancoe "used the ground to help make the catch."

Asked what explanation he received, Childress said, "They said he didn't control it. And he controlled it. And there's nobody in this room -- if the litmus is 50 drunks in a bar, those 50 drunks say that's a catch, and 50 writers in this room, you may be drunk, too, but ... it's a catch."

Shiancoe was more measured in his comments, saying he spoke with Green and "he told me that if it was further up in my hands it would have been a touchdown. He says because I had it low in my hands, it's not a touchdown."

However, before getting on the team plane, Shiancoe posted on his Twitter account: "Thought I had the TD ... (smacking my head). Don't understand."

Coincidentally, Childress had a chance to take away four points from the Packers but didn't throw his challenge flag. Replays showed Green Bay tight end Andrew Quarless bobbled his 9-yard touchdown catch after landing on the end line.

No shot?

Several players were visibly frustrated when Childress allowed the last 25 seconds or so to tick off the clock in the first half -- rather than taking at least one shot down the field.

A 49-yard completion to Randy Moss had been erased by a pass-interference call, but Adrian Peterson broke a 14-yard run on the next play to set up second-and-4 from the Vikings' 38.

Instead of using one of two remaining timeouts, Childress let the clock run, and with about 10 seconds left, quarterback Brett Favre began jogging toward the locker room as Moss and others held their arms out in confusion.

"There was 24 seconds left there, and that's what we wanted to do," Childress said. "We wanted to call our timeout, wanted to see if we could pop a draw on the first-down play, which we did. ... We took the shot, we got offensive pass interference, we moved backwards at that point in time and they had three timeouts. I didn't want to pitch the ball. I didn't want to have them use their (timeouts) and let them have a punt-block (opportunity)."

Childress said he had no problem with the call on Moss.

"Can't put your two hands on the guy's back and push off," he said.

Backfield timeshare

Gerhart got his most extensive playing time of the season, replacing Peterson for several extended stretches.

Peterson broke his chinstrap on the game's opening play and spoke to reporters with a sizeable welt on his left cheek, but there were no signs he was hobbled -- and he got plenty of touches. He finished with 131 yards on 28 carries (4.7 average) and two catches for 41 yards, while Gerhart had 24 yards on five carries (4.8 average).

Childress said Gerhart's action was planned in certain packages, but Peterson said he was surprised to be on the sideline in several third- and fourth-down situations.

"I don't have an idea," Peterson said. "I don't call the plays. When you call my number, I'll go out there and do my job."

Health watch

Backup safety Eric Frampton received medical attention on the field after covering a first-quarter kickoff but walked off under his own power.

Receiver Percy Harvin limped off the field late, clutching his left shin and calf, but he only missed one play before returning.

Quick hits

For the first time in weeks, WLB Ben Leber took some snaps in the nickel defense in place of MLB E.J. Henderson.

Rookie DE Everson Griffen made his NFL debut on the kickoff-coverage team.

The Vikings' first two drives were three-and-outs followed by punts, making them 0-for-12 in scoring on those drives so far this season.
Tom Pelissero is Senior Editor of 1500ESPN.com


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