tru dat



Most of these problems have been on-going for several years



Why? C'mon coach, start to discipline players for penalties.



If the Packers are so deep in talent, and Ted Thompson & Mike McCarthy have been successful drafting, why do we stink so bad on special teams.



Our Defense just can't stop anybody. We still have no pass rush other than Clay Matthews. If Cullen Jenkins and Matthews can stay healthy, GB has a solid inside and outside pass rushing threat. Maybe an acquisition like pepers could have really made a difference on this team.



I hope GB drafts a RB this year. Not really a fan of any Gb running Backs.

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The article was good, and most of the comments are as well. It's rare you see that.


You have to weigh your homerism/loyalty vs. true accountability.


I don't know what say we as fans have in these matters, but I would like to win something.

I would also like straight answers to straight questions, without referrals and/or deferrals to any "film".

Mike looks far more OJT (still) than I care for, so does Ted. They both seem to lack the capacity to adjust to changing circumstances.

Someone said that they would both do best demoted. I tend to agree. It will not happen, but it is about right.

Mike is not stupid, by any stretch---Sadly, he is not terribly smart, either.

Ted is strange and too esoterically opinionated in how things should be done...It borders on some sort of weird dogma. His example "failed" in Seattle, but he was exonerated from that "failure" by subsequent events, as we all know. I truly wonder if the "value" placed upon that aspect is truly reflective of his value as a GM... I think all should, (wonder--with the exception of the Favrerolites---they have credibility isssues, therefore they can kindly STFU on this particular thread) because he is "pricey", as far as current- year aspirations go....

I have stated on this board for a few years now that Mike McCarthy may be a better coach if the Packers hired a "real" offensive coordinator and he was head coach of the whole team.
I'm not saying Philbin couldn't be an effective OC, but we just don't know because he hasn't had the chance.

I've also said for a few years that if Ted Thompson is such a draft guru, why do the Packers consistantly have such terrible special teams.
It is my firm opinion that special teams is a reflection of any teams drafting success. Of course special teams coaching is a factor but these kids have been playing football for years and most of them have played on special teams for years as well.
Do they forget how to play when they get to the Packers or maybe they just aren't that good.
If it's the latter then that is a drafting problem. Enter TT.

You're missing the the bigger picture here Zero.

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Agreed ^^^^^^

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I hate to say this to such a new member, but you really post some of the most useless comments I've ever wasted my time reading.


I'm sure I'm missing the bigger picture, how bout ya enlighten my ignorance?

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Dude ripped off my "watershed game" post. Only my post was way better.

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This is a good solid article about where the Packers are at right now. Last season was billed as a pivotal season, and they passed that test with an 11-5 record although they failed to advance in the playoffs. Unfortunately, they are having trouble following it up this year. Injuries are part of the problem, but not the entire problem.

The 8-8 record against playoff teams is actually quite good, I think. I would put that number in the plus column for McCarthy.

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