Zero2Cool
14 years ago

If Uncle Ted does give up another draft choice in a trade, I expect a lot of trading down in next year's draft.

If we land Marion Barber, I will be very excited. Too bad we have too many pussies for Olineman to really make good use of a power back.

"DakotaT" wrote:




I don't remember where I read this, but I'm not the first is the point. Ryan Grant doesn't NEED a lead blocker like Brandon Jackson does, which is why Ryan will be more successful in an awful OL than Brandon. I mention this because I think Barber is more like Grant in that aspect and even with a bad OL, I think Barber can make a positive impact for us.
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Finley88Beast
14 years ago

If Uncle Ted does give up another draft choice in a trade, I expect a lot of trading down in next year's draft.

If we land Marion Barber, I will be very excited. Too bad we have too many pussies for Olineman to really make good use of a power back.

"Zero2Cool" wrote:




I don't remember where I read this, but I'm not the first is the point. Ryan Grant doesn't NEED a lead blocker like Brandon Jackson does, which is why Ryan will be more successful in an awful OL than Brandon. I mention this because I think Barber is more like Grant in that aspect and even with a bad OL, I think Barber can make a positive impact for us.

"DakotaT" wrote:



That is true.
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millertime
14 years ago
I'll must preface this post, with my opinion that our offensive line & special teams is my biggest concern. But RB is still on the list.

The real problem is that in this crazy season, only a few teams are in complete meltdown mode: Browns, Bills, Raiders (as always), Cowboys, Panthers, & 49ers.

The Browns and the Bills have already made a move at RB. The Raiders and 49ers best offensive players are their RBs.

The Cowboys & Panthers both have young RBs that were high draft picks and are currently splitting time with veterans. That leaves 2 options at RB: DeAngelo Williams & Marion Barber.

Marion Barber hasn't looked good in two years. He's gotten slow and tenative. That said, he still is a major upgrade over Kuhn. He is not worth more than a 5th round pick, IMO. If Ted Thompson won't cough up a 3rd for Lynch, he damn sure won't for MB3. Tashard Choice, however, is a versatile back w/out a lot of mileage. Might be worth a chance.

We'll have to up the ante for Williams, b/c he is far superior RB. A second should get it done, but is a very steep price to pay for a RB who may still struggle due to our anemic o-line.

My guess, however, is that Ted Thompson will stand pat. Anthony Smith is the only midseason trade I can recall in the Ted Thompson era, and we all know how much he loves his draft picks.
Since69
14 years ago
I'm tempted to think that our next starting running back will be Ahman Green, actually...
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musccy
14 years ago
Doom and gloom alert.

Is it worth it to trade right now, esp. a 3rd for barber/choice?

We're not even 1/2 way through the season and have already lost 7 or how many starters, poppinga this week...what more is still on the horizon?

I feel like someone standing in front of a dam with a lot of tiny pinhole leaks. He tries to stand in front closing the holes with his fingers and toes, thinks he has it plugged, then another hole opens, so he contorts his body, plugs it, and another hole and on and on and on.

At some point here do we just run away from the dam and let the water flow wherever it's going to flow?
musccy
14 years ago

I'm tempted to think that our next starting running back will be Ahman Green, actually...

"Since69" wrote:



He's under contract with the Omaha UFL team and I don't think he can be released until mid-late Nov.
Since69
14 years ago

I'm tempted to think that our next starting running back will be Ahman Green, actually...

"musccy" wrote:



He's under contract with the Omaha UFL team and I don't think he can be released until mid-late Nov.

"Since69" wrote:



I still wouldn't be surprised to see the Pack bring him in for a look-see and not trade for anyone now if he looks any good at all...
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Let me ask ... what one position are we lacking that would HELP solidify our team? Of course, no one position will resolve all of our issues, I specifically am asking, which one would HELP MOST solidify our issues.

First, we must ask, what is our biggest issue?
Second, is it capable of being resolved by one player?
Third, what player would resolve said issue?
Fourth, is that player available?
Fifth, at what cost is this player worth and is it justifiable?

I don't think we have any one position that we are lacking that can be fixed or helped dramatically by one player. I think our issues are depth, rather, lack of depth.

I don't like Jackson as our number one, but I think he's find if our OL gets it's act together, which needs to be done regardless of who's running behind it.

I believe our offense just needs to gel with the players we have.


DL is banged up.
LB I believe we're going to be okay.
CB I think we're fine with Woodson, Williams, Shields and add in Harris. That's a good foursome.
S Collins and Smith, good duo. Bigby backing up, good. I think we need another safety as I don't believe Peprah is the answer. I'd rather Blackmon on the roster than him, because then Will can return punts, instead of Tramon.


You will laugh. You will say I'm stupid. You will mock me for this, but I feel our weakest position is ... Punter. I didn't think he did bad last game, then looked things over. When we needed a good punt, he pooched 37 yards.




Edit, to wrap up my little story. We will not make a trade, it does not suit our team in the long run even though us fans think it's a sexy idea. We're not one position player away from being the 'IT' team.
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DakotaT
14 years ago

I'm tempted to think that our next starting running back will be Ahman Green, actually...

"Since69" wrote:



He was seen in GB according to Chatters. He's a better option than Kuhn.
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dhazer
14 years ago
Panthers | Will not be sellers prior to trade deadline
Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:10:13 -0700

The Carolina Panthers will not trade any of their veteran players prior to the NFL trade deadline, according to a team source, reports Jason La Canfora, of NFL Network. "There is nothing going on with us at all," the source said, "and there won't be anything going on with us." Teams have interest in WR Steve Smith and RBs DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart, but none of them is even a candidate to be dealt, according to the source.


http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl#ixzz12p2DnCob 
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be šŸ™‚ (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game
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Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier
buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol
Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???
Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.
packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?
bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network
beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th
beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.
bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I would think it would hurt the home team because people would have to cancel last minute maybe? i dunno
beast (23-Dec) : I agree that it's BS for fans planning on going to the game. But how does it bring in more money? I'm guessing indirectly?
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : bs on flexing the game....they do it for the $$league$$, not the hometown fans
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I see what you did there Mucky
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : dammit. 3:25pm
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Packers Vikings flexed to 3:35pm
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Upon receiving the news about Luke Musgrave, I immediately fell to the ground
Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : Yeah baby!
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : LUKE MUSGRAVE PLAYING TONIGHT~!~~~~WOWHOAAOHAOAA yah
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I wanna kill new QB's ... blitz the crap out of them.
beast (23-Dec) : Barry seemed to get too conservative against new QBs, Hafley doesn't have that issue
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : However, we seem to struggle vs new QB's
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Should be moot point, cuz Packers should win tonight.
packerfanoutwest (23-Dec) : ok I stand corrected
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ok, yes, you are right. I see that now how they get 7th
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : 5th - Packers win out, Vikings lose out. Maybe?
beast (23-Dec) : Saying no to the 6th lock.
beast (23-Dec) : No, with the Commanders beating the Eagles, Packers could have a good chance of 6th or 7th unless the win out
Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think if Packers win, they are locked 6th with chance for 5th.
beast (23-Dec) : But it doesn't matter, as the Packers win surely win one of their remaining games
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