zombieslayer
14 years ago
Bump.

I gave credit to the wrong person. I thought it was Foster who started this thread. Sorry Wade.

Vikings' OL last night was getting Favre killed. I didn't see the game, but heard our OL was getting Rodgers killed. I did see da Bears game a few weeks back where Cutler died.

I haven't watched the Lions. How's their OL? They won their first game.

All I know is our OL sucks, the Vikings' OL sucks, but da Bears have an OL that sucks more than both ours and the Vikings. Didn't think it was possible but it's true.
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14 years ago

Bump.

I gave credit to the wrong person. I thought it was Foster who started this thread. Sorry Wade.

Vikings' OL last night was getting Favre killed. I didn't see the game, but heard our OL was getting Rodgers killed. I did see da Bears game a few weeks back where Cutler died.

I haven't watched the Lions. How's their OL? They won their first game.

All I know is our OL sucks, the Vikings' OL sucks, but da Bears have an OL that sucks more than both ours and the Vikings. Didn't think it was possible but it's true.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



S'ok. Foster hits the dead horse OL as much as I do. At least when he isn't letting his more PC cyborg clone use his keyboard.
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zombieslayer
14 years ago
OK, so I'm not going senile. :)

Whew. Thought I was for a second.

Anyways, excellent topic. Hope to see more discussion of it. (hint, hint).
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14 years ago
Yammer yammer yammer.

Goddamn OL shit.

:horse: :horse:

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all_about_da_packers
14 years ago
I think your main idea is bang-on Wade, but I disagree about one thing: we clearly have the better O-line. Perhaps I should say, more accurately, we have more to work with than the Vikings.

Sitton is a stud. However, Wells has been outstanding. If McGinn is to be believed (no reason for him not to be in this case), Wells gave up his first sack (technically half a sack) since Week 7 of last year. He has done a solid job since taking over for Spitz last year. He is also pretty good in making line adjustments to blitzes.

We also have Bulaga, who held up pretty decently matched against Orakpo most of the game yesterday. Considering this was his first action at RT, it's hard not to feel comforted by having him as a back-up for Clifton or Taush.

And for all his faults yesterday, Clifton was okay minus the major blunder against Orakpo in OT. However, that blunder itself may very well have been the result of Clifton not hearing the snap count, because it's unlike him to totally not move and let his player get by him without even making an attempt to block him. In other words, he still has something left that gives us an adequate option at LT.

Colledge is Colledge, so yeah, but we do have Spitz behind him, who has been solid at RG and shown he is a decent starter. I wonder if he would have pushed Colledge more were it not for the fact he was returning from off-season surgery.

McGinn made an interesting point: Rodgers seems to be regressing and that is costing us sacks. He pinned 2 sacks against the Skins on Rodgers where he either had happy feet and moved into the sack or where he held onto the ball too long. Considering Cal2GreenBay's post about Rodgers less than impressive fundamentals, I'm beginning to think beyond O-line whichever team's QB can manage the O-line deficiencies best will have a shot at the playoffs.
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Zero2Cool
14 years ago
Bulaga was not good at RT against the Redskins.
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14 years ago

Bulaga was not good at RT against the Redskins.

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All things considered, I think his performance was okay (didn't mean to imply he played lights out). He is going against an all-pro OLB, starting his first game at RT, as well as his first game in the NFL.

He certainly could play better (he was beaten inside a couple of times) but he did not let Orakpo beat him outside once. The inside thing you can correct I believe (being more compact and not sliding out as much), but the fact that he did not get outside is encouraging about his ability to move his feet and, I figure, something positive about his hand placement.

In other words, he showed he has talent we can work with. Certainly not an outstanding performance, but definitely an encouraging one when you look at the context IMO.
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14 years ago
Bulaga was not good at RT against the Redskins.
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