I'm not convinced that will be the case this year.

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But by that logic, the loss should be pinned on Chilly. He was the one that opted to go for it on 4th and 2 within Longwell's range. That's a potential 10 point swing (because the Phins took the ball and scored on that possession).

I wouldn't put the Packers loss on Rodgers last years' playoff.. I mean, their defense got torched, right? I'd say that's the defenses fault.

EDIT: My original point, before you derail me, was that the loss yesterday can not soley be placed on Favre's shoulders. He deserves a lot of the flak he's getting, but not all of the blame lays on him. Just looking at the stat lines can be deceiving (like the writers perspective on Favre's 4 turnovers), as proven by Rodgers' fumble last year's playoff game, or Favre's INT that bounced off his WRs hands (happened at least once last year, and happened yesterday as well).

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a loss or win really never should be based on just one guy

but when it comes to Rodgers haters a loss does..

You seen that here you know you have

Three interceptions.
One fumble loss that was directly 7 points.
Team lost by 4 points.

If your QB position didn't have four turnovers, YOU WIN THE GAME!


Holy shit you like to argue.

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I don't think Favre is responsible for losing the game. He is responsible for playing atrociously. A 44 rating 3 ints and a fumble in the endzone for a TD.

All the Favre fans were saying that they will finally win it this year because Favre will play as well as he did last year. I said that it is more likely for him to have his worst season ever than it would be for him to have his 2 career best years back to back at age 40-41.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a 36+ turnover year with a rating below 70.

The most they should realistically expect is his average year. Mid 80s rating and mid 20s in turnovers.

With their run D failing, the secondary weak, the blocking on the O-line being inconsistent and no wide receiver threats, Favre will struggle to even be average. At his age and lack of mobility, worst ever seem more probable.

Add in the fact that they play something like 7 of the first 9 games against playoff teams from last year. And they already lost to 1 of the 2 that didn't make the playoffs.

A weak splat, softly in the distance, with no meaning or relevance. Out of contention and inconsequential. Favre's swan song will be crickets chirping as some one turns of the Dome lights.

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Three interceptions.
One lost fumble that gave the opponent 7 points.
They lost by four points.


It's not as if Brett threw 3 TD's that kept them in the game. The Vikings were in the game in SPITE of the play at the QB position.



I don't understand why people continue to make excuses for the man. He's human, he had a bad game and it cost his team. It's not the end of the world. He's also a key reason they won a few of the games last year. First one comes to mind the 49ers game, they won the game because of Brett. Sure, Greg could have dropped the ball, but without Brett's superior pocket presence, that game never gets a W for the Vikings.

It's okay to say they lost because of the QB, just like its okay to say they won because of the QB. Obviously its a team game, but one position sure can make it hard to win the game. That's exactly what happened for the Vikings. The QB did them no favors.

Call it however you wish, but know that the QB position cost the Vikings the game. Stevie Wonder says that was obvious to the naked eye.

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Sooo..

You are saying that it was soley Rodger's fault the Packers lost last year in the playoffs?

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If you start with the what ifs and take away mistakes, you could also take away the gift fumbles by Williams and Brown. If the Vikings had not been given the ball on the 2, would they have scored? Take that away and the Vikings scored 3 on their own.

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I'm not playing the 'what if' game. I'm just stating that the loss yesterday (two days ago, officially) can not be blamed soley on Favre.

This is all.

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The what ifs don't mean anything. Favre played horribly. But he was not the only one. Peterson could have gotten one more yard. Tahi could have thrown one block. The line could have protected better. Harvin could have caught that pass that was intercepted. The list of IFs is endless.

Favre was not the only guy screwing up out there. He is only responsible for his own play. He is responsible for waving off the FG unit and blowing it on 4th down from comfortable field goal range. For missing camp and not having timing. For throwing into double coverage, late and behind receivers. For not getting rid of the ball in the endzone. But it took all 53 of them to lose. Plus all of the coaches.

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