joym13
14 years ago

Well, it appears we showed SLIGHTLY too much in Week 17.

"TheEngineer" wrote:



No - if we showed too much anywhere it was the Steelers game, the Cards obviously watched that tape a few times!
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nathaniel
14 years ago

Wow. What an absolute defensive failure.

"all_about_da_packers" wrote:



I most want to read Capers' comments after the game. What on earth happened?!

I think even Capers couldn't believe how bad we were... a couple of time I saw him showing some emotion when the camera was on him...

"nathaniel" wrote:



The thing that gets me is that they exploited ONE thing the entire game, the middle of the field, and I didn't see a single adjustment until we put in the "Psycho" defense, and even that didn't work. But even by then it was too late. Capers looked completely confused and pissed when he was on camera. It seems like he had TOO much faith in his game plan, and just expected it to work and wasn't willing to adjust. I don't get it.
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musccy
14 years ago
some people were mentioning that what he picked up on to exploit in the middle was from the dallas and pittsburgh game...so I guess we shouldn't have played those games
all_about_da_packers
14 years ago

The thing that gets me is that they exploited ONE thing the entire game, the middle of the field, and I didn't see a single adjustment until we put in the "Psycho" defense, and even that didn't work. But even by then it was too late. Capers looked completely confused and pissed when he was on camera. It seems like he had TOO much faith in his game plan, and just expected it to work and wasn't willing to adjust. I don't get it.

"nathaniel" wrote:




I don't get it either. To be fair, the middle of the field is exactly where the cover-2 (zone) D is most vulnerable.

But it might be a factor that we had communication issues where players weren't signaling which player was their assignment. Or at least players didn't pass off/pick up their assignments properly in zone.

I'm wondering if Capers saw that as a players problem. In other words, was Atari Bigby benched? Because in a do-or die, if you can stand on the sideline you'd think the injury isn't all that serious. A benching might indicate that players were trying to do too much, and thus leaving their assigned areas too early.
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packer98
14 years ago
Safties usually own the middle and we have none!!!!! Bigby and Collins are usually hurt either when we are losing or they get toasted. Wow, Bibgy got hurt again tonight and Colins pulled up on a couple of plays. SHOCKER!!
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gotarace
14 years ago
I don't think we showed tooo much last week but i will say the Cardinals showed tooo little last week. I think there was a bit of not on our d hangover from the week before and it steamrolled out of control.
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porky88
14 years ago
The Cardinals had two weeks to prepare for us. They came in a week ago, with a pair of gameplans. They were able to use the soft gameplan due to Minnesota beating the Giants. Then, for this week, they had a chance to shore somethings up and add to that gameplan.

Offensively, both teams played great. Defensively, both teams stunk. A fluke play ended up winning the game. Not to say Arizona didn't deserve to win, they clearly did. As did the Packers' offense. Defenses didn't really deserve it. I guess Arizona's deserves credit for forcing a pair of fumbles in this game.
TheEngineer
14 years ago
For a team that took 2 weeks to gameplan against us, saw basically everything we had to offer and gave little away..... 51-45 in OT isn't exactly a convincing win. Just saying.
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